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    Will be the 8th best ODI side (bowling lets them down), but clearly a lot better than Zimbabwe in 9th.

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    Little to differentiate Collingwood and Stokes, agreed. Just a bit of power-hitting, maybe.
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    Fairbrother is a decent option as well. He would add balance to that batting order


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    Shame Fairbrother couldn't chip in with useful overs

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    All 3 of Collingwood, Fairbrother and Stokes are good options, but all of them cannot bat higher than 6 in this team. In this age of power-hitting, it comes down to who can get the 50 runs off the last 5 overs better. I think Stokes will win that battle.
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    I don't think there's a lot to differentiate the two with ball, but Stokes is a better batsman and a much better 6/7 option.
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    Pretty ridiculous imo that up doesn't get in on the off chance stokes might have to bowl 3/4 overs. The batting looks so much better with him in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricAddict View Post
    All 3 of Collingwood, Fairbrother and Stokes are good options, but all of them cannot bat higher than 6 in this team. In this age of power-hitting, it comes down to who can get the 50 runs off the last 5 overs better. I think Stokes will win that battle.
    Why should it be in this age? Shouldn't an All-time team be playing in a mixture of All-time conditions?

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    Collingwood is a great shout given the rest of the side that's been picked. Could also go for KP or Morgan given that Root can also fill in as 6th bowler. Collingwood and Morgan are both world tournament winning captains, and we don't really have a captain yet so I'd plump for one of them.

    Talking up Fairbrother is so strange. Had a brief run as a top 10 ranked ODI bat and that's it. One hundred and 16 fifties is a decent record, sure, but it's much more Ravi Bopara than MS Dhoni. I tried to look up how much of an international force he was in his peak years (90-95) and it turns out he isn't in the top 50 ODI run scorers for that time. Probably the third or fourth best player in the team during that period after Hick and Lamb, possibly Robin Smith.
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    He was kind of an innovater in his approach to innings right? A bevan/dhoni type finisher before they existed? Like a 5-6 who could stall a collapse than up the ante when needed

    His one ton was a pretty impressive example of guiding a team to victory, against a pretty solid Windies line up. Was probably considerd an ATG ODI innings at the time when peeling off a run a ball ton in a chase wasn't done every other match

    http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Stati...MatchCode=0739

    The innings is on YouTube and is a treat to watch. The commentators thought a superstar had arrived that day. Played Ambrose, Walsh and Marshall with ease.

    His innings in the '92 final could have been one of the best ever if he wasn't dismissed. And then he got a couple more 60s against the world champions Pakistan later that year

    in the '99 tri series he played several clutch knocks against the 2 finalists from the previous WC. He averaged 60+ over the 10 match tournament

    His overall average is close to 40 back when that was great and he was usually always vsing ATG bowlers. The one ton thing, well tons were hard to come by for number 5s back then.


    I do take your point though, 75 games is such a tiny career for an ODI player really. I probably do overrate him a tad, Hick probably was better, but I think Fairbrother was a bit of a pioneer as an ODI specialist batsman
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    He also played very well when England toured India in '93 and drew the ODI series 3-3, most of my memories of him are from that tour.
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    England didn't prioritize ODI cricket much in the '90s from what I can recall. Hick, Smith and Fairbrother would have been more highly regarded if they'd been born in Asia and played in countless Singer/Coca Cola/Pepsi Tri-series.
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    I can't get my head around some of these names being bandied about while there is no spot for kp lol

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