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I recommend this thread title be changed toNever realised Sachin was a fat drugged up cheat. Learn something new every day.
Is Warne to Chahal what Maradona is to Messi?
I recommend this thread title be changed toNever realised Sachin was a fat drugged up cheat. Learn something new every day.
You reckon Maradona is that much superior to Messi?I recommend this thread title be changed to
Is Warne to Chahal what Maradona is to Messi?
Never heard of Pele?LOL. Maradona was drugged up cheat and everything, but he was lso the greatest footballer to have ever lived, so Sachin will always be privileged if he is compared to Maradona!
Of course have heard. Both Pele and Maradona are contenders for that title. Critiques of Pele often argue that many of Pele's achievements were against subpar clubs in his hometown. He never played in competitive leagues and teams like Barcelona.Never heard of Pele?
He had two out of three of those going for him tbfNever realised Sachin was a fat drugged up cheat. Learn something new every day.
LOL. Let's not make it a football debate on a cricket forum. :PConnor Jennings is the GOAT and I’ll hear no argument to the contrary
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Pele says hi.LOL. Maradona was drugged up cheat and everything, but he was lso the greatest footballer to have ever lived, so Sachin will always be privileged if he is compared to Maradona!
Haha, agreed, Pele is the original GOAT, and is still probably the no. 1 in the contender's list!Pele says hi.
Hey mate, I appreciate your effort in putting these stats together, because it's a big effort to do so. But you can't seriously say Tendulkar had a better ODI record at delivering when it mattered most than either Ponting or Gilchrist, surely? Or Inzamam, come to that. I'd certainly agree he's better than Kohli in important matches, but so's Mike Veletta.Thanks *****. Yes, I have read some of those posts. In fact, it is a pretty common myth that Sachin never played well in important matches (third most annoying myth, most annoying myth is that he played only for himself, second most annoying myth is that he never contributed to wins for India).
However, as the other posts claim, if he is indeed not that good in knockout matches, there must be someone greater than him? Who? Nobody ever delivers every time, so the question becomes, who delivers most frequently. If you consider all the potential candidates, none of them seems to match up with Tendulkar either on the big stage, or in knockouts:
tendulkar vs ponting
tendulkar vs lara
tendulkar vs kallis
tendulkar vs sangakkara
tendulkar vs hayden
tendulkar vs gilchrist
tendulkar vs inzamam
tendulkar vs ganguly
tendulkar vs haynes
tendulkar vs jayasuriya
tendulkar vs sehwag
tendulkar vs anwar
tendulkar vs dravid
None of them really matches up with Sachin, remotely. Hayden and Ganguly match to some extent, Dravid has a better World Cup record, but in to less matches to consider it too seriously, but Sachin trumps him totally in knockout matches.
The only player who has the better record in both cases, is Viv Richards, and that is pretty much undisputed:
tendulkar vs viv richards
Do you ascribe any weighting between the Titan Cup Final (massive though it no doubt was to fans all over the world) and a World Cup final?There are no semis in 3 team tournaments like Titan Cup. He scored some 60 odd runs in the final of Titan Cup, and it is probably right to calculate it as a knockout match.
Ponting and Gilchrist played some excellent knocks in wc finals but those are hardly the only innings that matter are they, even by your own narrow view of what odi innings actually count as valuable. Apart from the ton against India in the 2003 final, Ponting has exactly one 50+ score in 9 other games which was the hundred against India in the 2011 QF. Two very good tons but it's not like he didn't fail in important games, he did. Quite a lot. His other knockout scores are:Hey mate, I appreciate your effort in putting these stats together, because it's a big effort to do so. But you can't seriously say Tendulkar had a better ODI record at delivering when it mattered most than either Ponting or Gilchrist, surely? Or Inzamam, come to that. I'd certainly agree he's better than Kohli in important matches, but so's Mike Veletta.