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fastest domestic bowlers

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Arjun, are you asking if there is ANYONE in the Indian domestic scene who can bowl fast? If so, he needs to be monitored closely and kept in action for a long time, because all of India's best 'fast' bowlers lack pace. Perhaps this is why Indian pace bowling has never been a force to reckon with.
 

Muddaser

School Boy/Girl Captain
no point hyping a bowler until he has been clocked. we though irshad was the fastest in pakistan yet two other guys beat him in the speed comp.

mohammed irshad clocked 149kph in the UFONE speed comp. averaged 144kph.

imran sabir and khaleeq ahmed both beat him in that competition clocking 151kph.

khaleeq ahmed won the comp cause he has the better average speed. he is now in the AUS academy being trained.

each bowler bowled 1 over in the competition.

BTW, irshad is 21, imran sabir is 19 and khaleeq ahmed is 20.
 

SpaceMonkey

International Debutant
Muddaser said:
no point hyping a bowler until he has been clocked. we though irshad was the fastest in pakistan yet two other guys beat him in the speed comp.

mohammed irshad clocked 149kph in the UFONE speed comp. averaged 144kph.

imran sabir and khaleeq ahmed both beat him in that competition clocking 151kph.

khaleeq ahmed won the comp cause he has the better average speed. he is now in the AUS academy being trained.

each bowler bowled 1 over in the competition.

BTW, irshad is 21, imran sabir is 19 and khaleeq ahmed is 20.

You have to remember its alot easier to bowl fast when you just have to do it for 1 over and not have to worry about any kind of accuracy.
Speed is of course good but if you look at the top bowlers in the world at the moment nearly all bowl high 80's maybe 90 ish if they push themselves. As shown with Brett Lee most world batsmen can play speed if its straight. Its movement off the seam / swing at pace thats needed.
 

Muddaser

School Boy/Girl Captain
2 bowlers clocked 94mph and one clocked 93mph.

dont think its that easy to bowl at that speed as you make it out to be.

all three are under the age of 21.
 

chicane

State Captain
Muddaser said:
2 bowlers clocked 94mph and one clocked 93mph.

dont think its that easy to bowl at that speed as you make it out to be.

all three are under the age of 21.
Dude even Nehra got it up to 149 kmph for a couple of overs. They should be able to consistently bowl at those speeds through a spell.
 

Muddaser

School Boy/Girl Captain
Mohammed irshad average 144kph though he was coming back from injury and is still considered the fastest in pakistan.

imran sabir and khaleeq ahmed both clocked 151kph.

imran sabirs average was 149kph and khaleeqs was 150kph. thats why he won the speed comp.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Muddaser said:
2 bowlers clocked 94mph and one clocked 93mph.

dont think its that easy to bowl at that speed as you make it out to be.

all three are under the age of 21.

Yes, and without control, speed is pointless.
 

chicane

State Captain
You have to remember these guys are just bowing as fast as they can for one over. They don't give a **** for accuracy, they can bowl to third slip.
 

Muddaser

School Boy/Girl Captain
khaleeq ahmed the winner is in AUS to receive coaching.

ive seen mohammed irshad, has a longer run up than shoaib but his action is like aaqib javed.

imran sabir is ready, very similar to harmison but a longer run up.
 

Muddaser

School Boy/Girl Captain
chicane tell me what indias quickest bowler was in that comp you held.

83mph from what i know.

56 bowlers in pakistan clocked over 80mph. all under 21 yrs of age.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
chicane said:
You have to remember these guys are just bowing as fast as they can for one over. They don't give a **** for accuracy, they can bowl to third slip.
My point exactly.
 

Muddaser

School Boy/Girl Captain
chicane you must have seen mohammed irshad in the kenstar tournament held in december.

take into account that the majority are from the streets, a little tweaking with the run ups and action and theyll get quicker.
 

chicane

State Captain
Muddaser said:
chicane tell me what indias quickest bowler was in that comp you held.

83mph from what i know.

56 bowlers in pakistan clocked over 80mph. all under 21 yrs of age.
Yeah 135 km/hr, goes to show we will never find a genuine quick. Even Munaf is said to be not as quick as hyped up by the media.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Someone mentioned the famous Munaf Patel, who's not all that quick. It's impossible to tell without speedguns. CricInfo listed a certain Ranadeb Bose as RFM- doubtful, but not RF, not fast enough. Salvi bowled a few in the 140's in his first ODI series, but not consistently, and is back to the 120's after his various injuries. The Indian pace scene does not look promising at all. It's a lot more practical for them to go back to the days of the spin trio.
 

EnglishRose

School Boy/Girl Captain
Arjun said:
Someone mentioned the famous Munaf Patel, who's not all that quick. It's impossible to tell without speedguns. CricInfo listed a certain Ranadeb Bose as RFM- doubtful, but not RF, not fast enough. Salvi bowled a few in the 140's in his first ODI series, but not consistently, and is back to the 120's after his various injuries. The Indian pace scene does not look promising at all. It's a lot more practical for them to go back to the days of the spin trio.
They're much more likely to continue to win overseas tests if they develop their pace attack.

Modern day wickets (away from the subcontinent) only really suit genuine (orthodox) wrist spinners.
And India sadly do not have one at the moment.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
They're much more likely to continue to win overseas tests if they develop their pace attack.
Probably because the conditions suit the pace bowlers better. The conditions also suit the batsmen a lot better and so do the bowlers. Those teams have produced several quality fast bowlers. India has just one quality fast bowler in history. With such an uninspiring background, nobody would back an Indian attack with 3 seamers to take 20 wickets. If they played 2 spinners, they would have an advantage over the opposition, who can play pace better than spin.

Modern day wickets (away from the subcontinent) only really suit genuine (orthodox) wrist spinners.
And India sadly do not have one at the moment.
Their spinners are still better than the pacers. The Indian pacers, to be honest, have never used favourable conditions as well as their opposition counterparts. On flat pitches, they're useless.
 

chicane

State Captain
Arjun said:
Their spinners are still better than the pacers. The Indian pacers, to be honest, have never used favourable conditions as well as their opposition counterparts. On flat pitches, they're useless.
Pathan outclassed Shoaib and Sami in Pakistan in very flat pitches. So did Balaji. You are being too critical. Yes we do need a guy who can bowl fast, and someone will come up. I still have high hopes for Munaf, Dennis Lilee couldn't be wrong. But right now our pace attack is decent if Zaheer can stay fit.
 

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