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    Edit: actually no. Will sit out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hill View Post
    Reasonable I reckon.
    OK, we'll go with that. Note that as well as obvious non-specialists such as Sangakkara/Walcott/de Villiers/Stewart, this excludes some players more generally thought of as specialist keepers such as Dujon, Waite, Moin Khan, Les Ames, Lindsay, de Kock, Blackham...

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    I say scrap the keeper rule
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    I agree. Blackham was universally considered the best wicket keeper in the history of cricket before WWI, and his batting was middling at best. Any criteria that excludes him from a list of specialist keepers is not fit for purpose.

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    Well, bear in mind that Curtly Ambrose is not a valid pick in this draft because his batting was too good...

    But I think it's probably easiest to stick to the original criteria and allow any wicket-keeper (other than, say, Boucher and Walcott who fail on their averages).
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    16 hours per pick for Round 1, 8 hours after that. Order for Round 2 is reverse of order for Round 1 as usual. And we're sticking to the original criteria and allowing wicket-keeper-batsmen.
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    I'm not gonna pick my keeper first, but why dont we say "keeper must have kept in more than 75% of matches played"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hill View Post
    I'm not gonna pick my keeper first, but why dont we say "keeper must have kept in more than 75% of matches played"?
    I think something like this is good, maybe a higher percentage to emphasise specialisation. Would that mean that for example Alec Stewart is ineligible for selecting as a specialist batsman too? This would seem to fit the intent of the draft.
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    I don't think having played as a keeper should prevent a player from being picked as a non-keeper, since I don't see how it would benefit them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuton View Post
    I think something like this is good, maybe a higher percentage to emphasise specialisation.
    I agree. This is a good idea but a higher percentage like 90% would be a more accurate indicator of specialisation, IMO.
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    Here's a list of everyone who's played in Tests both as designated keeper and not (sorted by % of matches as keeper):

    Code:
                  Player  WK  not  %WK
               JHB Waite  49   1  98.00
        RS Kaluwitharana  48   1  97.96
               PJL Dujon  79   2  97.53
               Q de Kock  39   1  97.50
                 WP Saha  31   1  96.88
             N Dickwella  30   1  96.77
                 T Taibu  27   1  96.43
             H Strudwick  27   1  96.43
               Moin Khan  66   3  95.65
                CS Baugh  20   1  95.24
               JT Murray  20   1  95.24
               JR Murray  31   2  93.94
                LEG Ames  44   3  93.62
                JM Parks  43   3  93.48
              SO Dowrich  28   2  93.33
            Imtiaz Ahmed  38   3  92.68
             JM Blackham  32   3  91.43
               IM Barrow  10   1  90.91
                EJ Smith  10   1  90.91
             G MacGregor   7   1  87.50
                A Flower  55   8  87.30
              BJ Watling  53   8  86.89
               AC Parore  67  11  85.90
             Taslim Arif   5   1  83.33
             BK Kunderan  15   3  83.33
               AH Jarvis   9   2  81.82
         Mushfiqur Rahim  54  12  81.82
                TE Blain   9   2  81.82
             CC Depeiaza   4   1  80.00
              DT Lindsay  15   4  78.95
                RK Nunes   3   1  75.00
               MK Mantri   3   1  75.00
              KD Karthik  19   7  73.08
             RW Chakabva  10   4  71.43
             WB Phillips  18   9  66.67
               Liton Das  10   5  66.67
                FW Smith   2   1  66.67
                M Bisset   2   1  66.67
             JM Bairstow  42  21  66.67
            AJW McIntyre   2   1  66.67
             SC Griffith   2   1  66.67
              AJ Stewart  82  51  61.65
               CS Pandit   3   2  60.00
            GM Fullerton   4   3  57.14
              JC Buttler  16  15  51.61
             BB McCullum  52  49  51.49
               FJ Burton   1   1  50.00
             Abdul Kadir   2   2  50.00
              GN Edwards   4   4  50.00
            LD Chandimal  24  29  45.28
                 PJ Moor   3   5  37.50
             MDKJ Perera   6  10  37.50
                 PA Gibb   3   5  37.50
           KC Sangakkara  48  86  35.82
              CL Walcott  15  29  34.09
                 J Selby   2   4  33.33
                L Ronchi   1   3  25.00
            DSBP Kuruppu   1   3  25.00
                 LJ Moon   1   3  25.00
          AB de Villiers  24  90  21.05
               JED Sealy   2   9  18.18
         HP Tillakaratne  11  72  13.25
               Ijaz Butt   1   7  12.50
          Mehrab Hossain   1   8  11.11
                JK Silva   3  36   7.69
              BRM Taylor   2  26   7.14
          Hanif Mohammad   3  52   5.45
              WL Murdoch   1  18   5.26
               RB Kanhai   3  76   3.80
               WR Endean   1  27   3.57
                 SD Hope   1  28   3.45
              TM Dilshan   3  84   3.45
                BA Edgar   1  38   2.56
            AP Gurusinha   1  40   2.44
            VL Manjrekar   1  54   1.82
                 JR Reid   1  57   1.72
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