CricketWeb decides the Greatest Players Post World War I

[h_hurricane]

It's about time he hits a triple in tests you'd think?

Not really. Scoring triple hundreds depend on a lot of factors. One should either get a really weak opponent, a opportune moment when there is an insane amount of time left in the match or an eye purely on personal milestone. When Kohli scored his double hundreds against Eng or Bangladesh, his intention was to cut loose after 200, he got out in 230s I think.

The way he approaches games, I don't think he will score a triple hundred. Won't matter to him as long as the team does well.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

I may have misread it.

But I translate #5 to someone with immense levels of concentration to get on board the 300+ train.

Choo choo

 

[h_hurricane]

I may have misread it.

But I translate #5 to someone with immense levels of concentration to get on board the 300+ train.

Choo choo

I wrote motivation, not concentration. That translates to turning up for match after match, scoring a lot of hundreds against quality opposition.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

I wrote motivation, not concentration. That translates to turning up for match after match, scoring a lot of hundreds against quality opposition.

Insane levels of fitness and energy I was referring to

Choo choo

 

[weldone]

Insane levels of fitness and energy I was referring to

Choo choo

That's a foolish line of argument to be honest.

Didn't Jonty Rhodes have insane levels of fitness and energy? Was he fitter than Chris Gayle or was he not? How many triples did Jonty score?

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

That's a foolish line of argument to be honest.

Didn't Jonty Rhodes have insane levels of fitness and energy? Was he fitter than Chris Gayle or was he not? How many triples did Jonty score?

Yes it's foolish.

I misread.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Would be more interested if we made a list about the greatest cricketers across formats.

Most underrated ODi cricketers

Brian Lara - no one dominated batting rankings consistently like Lara. Probable exception Viv Richards.
Brian Lara deserves to be rated as joint best batsman of 90s at least. He was the highest rated batsman of 6 years out of 10.

Kapil Dev - greatest allrounder. Best batsman among world class bowlers.
Dominated AR rankings for an entire decade.
Consistently featured among top 20 batsmen and top 5 / 10 bowlers. Significant World Records in both departments.
Only cricketer in the history to get rated as best batsman , best bowler and best fielder of the team.( And best captain too)

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Sa:

Ntini, Rabada, D'Oliveira, Fanie de Villiers

 

[trundler]

I'd say a 70-30 split between Tests and LOIs is appropriate.

 

[smash84]

I'd say a 70-30 split between Tests and LOIs is appropriate.

how would you then treat people who never played LO cricket and then rank them against those who did and get part of their ranking from odis?

 

[trundler]

I haven't got a sophisticated database to actually quantify this. I meant as a rough guideline for those who did.

 

[MagicPoopShovel]

Just went through the thread and counted the number of times a player was posted. Didn't count players who were seconded as it was hard to decipher with some posts.

Current votes (based on direct posts)

Don Bradman - 6
Virat Kohli - 5
Andy Flower - 4
Anil Kumble - 4
George Headley - 4
Jaques Kallis - 4
Mike Procter - 4
Richard Hadlee - 4
Shane Warne - 4
AB de Villiers - 3
Adam Gilchrist - 3
Alan Knott - 3
Allan Donald - 3
Brian Lara - 3
Curtly Ambrose - 3
Dale Steyn - 3
Frank Worrell - 3
Fred Trueman - 3
Geoff Boycott - 3
Glenn McGrath - 3
Graeme Pollock - 3
Imran Khan - 3
Inzaman Ul-Haq - 3
Jack Hobbs - 3
Kevin Pietersen - 3
Kumar Sangakkara - 3
M Muralitharan - 3
Malcolm Marshall - 3
MS Dhoni - 3
Ray Lindwall - 3
Ricky Ponting - 3
Shoaib Akhtar - 3
Steve Smith - 3
Sunil Gavaskar - 3
Alistair Cook - 2
Aravinda De Silva - 2
Bill O'Reilly - 2
Clive Rice - 2
Conrad Hunte - 2
Dennis Lillee - 2
Garry Sobers - 2
Herbert Sutcliffe - 2
Ian Botham - 2
Jason Gillespie - 2
Javed Miandad - 2
Jim Laker - 2
Kane Williamson - 2
Keith Miller - 2
Lance Gibbs - 2
Len Hutton - 2
Michael Bevan - 2
Micheal Holding - 2
Rahul Dravid - 2
Ravi Ashwin - 2
Sachin Tendulkar - 2
Shane Bond - 2
Shaun Pollock - 2
Virendar Sehwag - 2
Viv Richards - 2
Wally Hammond - 2
Waqar Younis - 2
Wasim Akram - 2
Alan Border - 1
Alan Davidson - 1
Andy Roberts - 1
Aubrey Faulkner - 1
Barry Richards - 1
Basil D'Oliviera - 1
Bishen Bedi - 1
Charlie Davis - 1
Charlie Macartney - 1
Cheteshwar Pujara - 1
Chris Cairns - 1
Chris Lewis - 1
CK Nayudu - 1
Clive Lloyd - 1
Clyde Walcott - 1
Collie Smith - 1
Courtney Walsh - 1
David Boon - 1
David Warner - 1
Denis Compton - 1
Dilip Vengsarkar - 1
Douglas Jardine - 1
Dudley Nourse - 1
Everton Weekes - 1
Fazal Mahmood - 1
Frank Tyson - 1
Gareth Batty - 1
Glenn Turner - 1
Graeme Smith - 1
Greg Chappell - 1
Gundappa Vishwanath - 1
Hanif Mohammad  - 1
Harold Larwood - 1
Hashim Amla - 1
Hedley Verity - 1
Hugh Tayfield - 1
Ian Bishop - 1
James Anderson - 1
Joe Root - 1
Joe Solomon - 1
Joel Garner - 1
Joey Carew - 1
Kapil Dev - 1
Kasigo Rabada - 1
Ken Barrington - 1
Leary Constantine - 1
Makhaya Ntini - 1
Manny Martindale - 1
Mark Waugh - 1
Martin Crowe - 1
Matthew Hayden - 1
Micheal Clarke - 1
Mike Hussey - 1
Nawab of Pataudi JR - 1
Neil Adcock - 1
Neil Harvey - 1
Ravindra Jadeja - 1
Richie Benaud - 1
Richie Richardson - 1
Rohan Kanhai - 1
Roy Fredricks - 1
Saeed Anwar - 1
Sanath Jayasuriya - 1
Saqlain Mushtaq - 1
Shakin Al Hasan - 1
Shiv Chanderpaul - 1
Stan McCabe - 1
Steve Camacho - 1
Steve Waugh - 1
Stewie Dempster - 1
Syd Barnes - 1
Syed Kirmani - 1
Sylvester Clarke - 1
Vernon Philander - 1
Victor Trumper - 1
Vijay Hazare - 1
Vijay Merchant - 1
VVS Laxman - 1
Yasir Shah - 1
Younis Khan - 1
Yousuf Youhana - 1
Zaheer Khan - 1

List of players mentioned. Apologies for misspelling names etc. Please let me know if you spot any and I will try to correct it when I can.

AB de Villiers
Adam Gilchrist
Alan Border
Alan Davidson
Alan Knott
Alistair Cook
Allan Donald
Andy Flower
Andy Roberts
Anil Kumble
Aravinda De Silva
Aubrey Faulkner
Barry Richards
Basil D'Oliviera
Bill O'Reilly
Bishen Bedi
Brian Lara
Charlie Davis
Charlie Macartney
Cheteshwar Pujara
Chris Cairns
Chris Lewis
CK Nayudu
Clive Lloyd
Clive Rice
Clyde Walcott
Collie Smith
Conrad Hunte
Courtney Walsh
Curtly Ambrose
Dale Steyn
David Boon
David Warner
Denis Compton
Dennis Lillee
Dilip Vengsarkar
Don Bradman
Douglas Jardine
Dudley Nourse
Everton Weekes
Fazal Mahmood
Frank Tyson
Frank Worrell
Fred Trueman
Gareth Batty
Garry Sobers
Geoff Boycott
George Headley
Glenn McGrath
Glenn Turner
Graeme Pollock
Graeme Smith
Greg Chappell
Gundappa Vishwanath
Hanif Mohammad 
Harold Larwood
Hashim Amla
Hedley Verity
Herbert Sutcliffe
Hugh Tayfield
Ian Bishop
Ian Botham
Imran Khan
Inzaman Ul-Haq
Jack Hobbs
James Anderson
Jaques Kallis
Jason Gillespie
Javed Miandad
Jim Laker
Joe Root
Joe Solomon
Joel Garner
Joey Carew
Kane Williamson
Kapil Dev
Kasigo Rabada
Keith Miller
Ken Barrington
Kevin Pietersen
Kumar Sangakkara
Lance Gibbs
Leary Constantine
Len Hutton
M Muralitharan
Makhaya Ntini
Malcolm Marshall
Manny Martindale
Mark Waugh
Martin Crowe
Matthew Hayden
Michael Bevan
Micheal Clarke
Micheal Holding
Mike Hussey
Mike Procter
MS Dhoni
Nawab of Pataudi JR
Neil Adcock
Neil Harvey
Rahul Dravid
Ravi Ashwin
Ravindra Jadeja
Ray Lindwall
Richard Hadlee
Richie Benaud
Richie Richardson
Ricky Ponting
Rohan Kanhai
Roy Fredricks
Sachin Tendulkar
Saeed Anwar
Sanath Jayasuriya
Saqlain Mushtaq
Shakin Al Hasan
Shane Bond
Shane Warne
Shaun Pollock
Shiv Chanderpaul
Shoaib Akhtar
Stan McCabe
Steve Camacho
Steve Smith
Steve Waugh
Stewie Dempster
Sunil Gavaskar
Syd Barnes
Syed Kirmani
Sylvester Clarke
Vernon Philander
Victor Trumper
Vijay Hazare
Vijay Merchant
Virat Kohli
Virendar Sehwag
Viv Richards
VVS Laxman
Wally Hammond
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Yasir Shah
Younis Khan
Yousuf Youhana
Zaheer Khan

Hope it helps!

 

[Victor Ian]

You left out David Boon.

I was serious about that, but, obviously greatness being based on being a 'legend', rather than stats based. Boonie was the struggler who became the best bat in the world, before Tendulkar and Lara took over. Boonie was the guy who made short-whatever a fielding position that was valued, rather than where you put the new guy because no one wanted to field there. Rubbish bins across Australia have been named after him. He had his own Boonie doll. He holds the record for flight beers. He made tubby people everywhere proud. He had a real moustache. He is no Bradman but Boonie has a different aspect of greatness about him. If you only want an ability based list leave him off. If you want to encompass more than ability alone, he is worth at least making the initial cut.

 

[MagicPoopShovel]

Ok must have missed that post. Fixed.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

First things first, it is worth removing the guy who isn't even a cricketer from that list

 

[MagicPoopShovel]

Upper management job. trundler can do the quality control. I'm just the data-entry guy.

 

[steve132]

Andy Roberts should be included in this list.

 

[jimmy101]

Simmons would make a top 50 NBA list though.

 

[CricAddict]

Inzamam, Yousuf Youhana, Andy Flower, Dhoni, Kallis .. Just throwing some names into the hat in case they have got missed so far..

 

[jimmy101]

Nominate CK Nayudu & Nawab jnr.

Doubt they'll make the final cut though, but massively influential Indian cricketers nonetheless.