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The ICC show some backbone
- Thread starter Craig
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badgerhair
U19 Vice-Captain
Well, there's an admission and a half. For many years, various Australians have been telling the rest of the world that their team is so awesome that their second eleven should be given Test status so that the first team could have some competition.Kenny said:Gee Mike - I don't think even the Aussies would be too flash without their best 15 players in the side mate - whaddya need a slide rule or something?
I'd agree that only a ludicrous optimist or a ZCU official could possibly entertain the theory that a side selected on a racial basis could match, let alone exceed, a side selected on boring old merit, but it was not possible for ICC or anyone else to state it as an absolute certainty until they'd seen the sorry crew in action. And if the ZCU's case was effectively that the white players were keeping the good black players out, as happened to Basil D'Oliveira in South Africa forty years ago, then they have to have a chance to prove their nonsensical theory before they get booted.
Still, it looks like the ZCU have been dim enough to tell the ICC to naff off and that ICC will seek to shore up their revenues by suspending them tomorrow.
Cheers,
Mike
Langeveldt
Soutie
Interesting to see the South Africans putting pressure on the ICC to sort out Zim... Pity they cant do that kind of thing on the political stage..
Revelation
U19 Debutant
why should WI lose Test status??
they have shown that they can beat quality opposition and be competitive, even if they don't win the series.
LOST 3-1 v Australia in 2003 (4 matches)
WON 1-0 v SL in 2003 (2 matches)
WON 1-0 v Zim in 2003 (2 matches)
LOST 3-0 v SA in 2003/2004 (4 matches)
LOST 3-0 v ENG in 2004 (4 matches)
they have shown that they can beat quality opposition and be competitive, even if they don't win the series.
LOST 3-1 v Australia in 2003 (4 matches)
WON 1-0 v SL in 2003 (2 matches)
WON 1-0 v Zim in 2003 (2 matches)
LOST 3-0 v SA in 2003/2004 (4 matches)
LOST 3-0 v ENG in 2004 (4 matches)
Slow Love™
International Captain
The comment about WI losing test status is just idiotic - I don't know why people are responding to it seriously.
Kind of fitting that the ICC ends up with egg all over it's face on this matter. More surprising to me is Cricket Australia's absolute willingness to be tossed around like pawns by the ZCU. When the ICC is threatening that the matches will be stripped of test status, it's just incredible that CA can't figure out that it's safe by now to say "let's forget it" and head home.
Although, I guess it's up to the ICC to make it clear that there won't be any financial penalty to do so. Get cracking, Mani.
Kind of fitting that the ICC ends up with egg all over it's face on this matter. More surprising to me is Cricket Australia's absolute willingness to be tossed around like pawns by the ZCU. When the ICC is threatening that the matches will be stripped of test status, it's just incredible that CA can't figure out that it's safe by now to say "let's forget it" and head home.
Although, I guess it's up to the ICC to make it clear that there won't be any financial penalty to do so. Get cracking, Mani.
Slow Love™
International Captain
I agree with this last paragraph of yours, although it seems to contradict what preceded it (how can you complain about the inactiveness of the ICC if you don't believe they should have acted before now?).badgerhair said:
The title of this thread is a little bit of a misnomer, really, because all that happened is that the ICC finally got pushed around by some interests that it's actually afraid of. As you point out, finally regaining some moral fibre had very little to do with it. So in a sense, it's a case of them having even less backbone than before.
It's also kinda weird that a 24 hour "ultimatum" becomes "a meeting on Friday". For all their bluster, they can't even tell the Aussie team to go home while Malcolm Speed whipes the custard pie from his face.
Slow Love™
International Captain
If you're talking about Murali, I can see where you're coming from, but why would you say that the situation in Zimbabwe is not threatening the sanctity of test cricket???Kenny said:
ok so without the offending final line there is a very interesting point raised..........Scallywag said:
firstly the obvious answer is that until the 2nd test everyone was trying to kid themselves that it was not goin to be a farce - a whitewash is acceptable but not the potential for AUS to set some horrendous records etc........
and the fact that only about 300 locals turned up to watch the Tests sort of killed the arguement re local support for the game in ZIM..........
if the ZCU get the chop from the ICC - will the SRL series stand or get wiped out??????
can you imagine the outcry from SRL quaters if the stats get wound back to prior to that series????
although it could also give the ICC, SLCB & Murali an opportunity to 'wipe the slate clean' regarding anything that may have taken place during the tour - very convenient way to avoid some possibly nasty confrontations etc.........
if this is so that the crowds are not supporting their national team at full strength - then what can be the justification for all the threats from the ICC about teams not touring regarding the benefit of the local game & development etc?????
not much point or benefit to be had in an empty stadium & the locals would just end up out of pocket as well as whitewashed..............
not much point or benefit to be had in an empty stadium & the locals would just end up out of pocket as well as whitewashed..............
biased indian
International Coach
its not because of the current problem that crowd is not coming it was always like that in Zim and pakistan is another example of crowd not coming for testsroseboy64 said: