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    Do WI need to play 5 bowlers realistically? Gabriel, Roach, Holder and a spinner (Bishoo, Warrican, Khan) is a top attack.

    EDIT: Also Chase can be used as a 2nd spinner
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    Yeah West Indies genuinely have a very good bowling attack, baring a decent spinner.

    Can someone explain to me why Nikita Miller has only ever played one test for the West Indies? There's probably a good reason, but 500 fc wickets at 16 is outstanding and I would have thought he would have got more chances. 10fer in his last FC match as well by the looks of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSM View Post
    Wouldn't this outlook make losing 4-1 to the side that lost a test to the West Indies even worse?
    Absolute butchering of logic.

    Would Liverpool be less deserving of their title if they lost to some low slung bottom feeder nincompoop. Would that team then deserve the PL more? When you want to determine the best team, you look at their overall performance and not cherry pick one match or series which would little doubt that India is the best team in the world, with England and NZ scraping for 2nd place. Which is why comments like 'India don't deserve No.1 because we 'thumped' them 4-1' don't make any sense.

    Even Head2Head India is well ahead of England by virtue of stomping England on our home grounds while leaving England fending us off by the skin of their teeth on the return leg.

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    True enough: and the same sort of false analogy you used when cherry picking England's passing and distant losses to the WI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BSM View Post
    Can someone explain to me why Nikita Miller has only ever played one test for the West Indies? There's probably a good reason, but 500 fc wickets at 16 is outstanding and I would have thought he would have got more chances. 10fer in his last FC match as well by the looks of it
    Barely gets the thing off the straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilowatt View Post
    Absolute butchering of logic.

    Would Liverpool be less deserving of their title if they lost to some low slung bottom feeder nincompoop. Would that team then deserve the PL more? When you want to determine the best team, you look at their overall performance and not cherry pick one match or series which would little doubt that India is the best team in the world, with England and NZ scraping for 2nd place. Which is why comments like 'India don't deserve No.1 because we 'thumped' them 4-1' don't make any sense.

    Even Head2Head India is well ahead of England by virtue of stomping England on our home grounds while leaving England fending us off by the skin of their teeth on the return leg.
    I was only using your logic champ. If you are going to claim one side is bad because they performed badly enough in one test match to lose to a side who are generally considered below average (cherry picking in the way that you've accused me of here), then losing 4-1 to that side you are trying to downplay would by that logic have to be considered worse. I never committed to this logic; in fact, I don't agree with it at all. But you ran with it, and only in seeing me use it against your own team have you actually recognised its flawed nature. Congrats

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    Not too optimistic about this your tbh. We were progressing really well as a test side at least but the tours of India BD Bangladesh have been disastrous for our batting and injuries/suspensions to key bowlers.

    I can see us bowling England out chesply a couple of times with excellent seam bowling but I can't see us putting up enough runs on the board to compete.

    Also the news that Pybus will be head coach is pretty disastrous. He is universally unpopular with stars and young players alike. Appointing him is the boards equivalent of sticking their middle finger up at the players.

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    I'll predict our side after the next couple of rounds of FC cricket. We're looking for an opener, a possible middle order batsman and a spinner.

    Darren Bravo will play for T & T. If he gets runs he must play it's as simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    Do WI need to play 5 bowlers realistically? Gabriel, Roach, Holder and a spinner (Bishoo, Warrican, Khan) is a top attack.

    EDIT: Also Chase can be used as a 2nd spinner
    Agreed. Especially as our batting is so weak anyway, it's suicidal to weaken it further.

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    Well at least you haven't tweakened it like Australia by replacing one no rounder with another then end up probably playing both.

    The WI bowlers have a great recent record at home. You may not need that much of an improvement from the batting to win/draw this series. It should be a realistic expectation.

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    Really doubt if WI is winning the series. If they just about manage to win a match, that'd not be a bad result for them at all.

    Bowlers may step up, but England has decent enough batting to weather that. Batting, however, looks dire AF. Hopefully Hope's still in good form, coming back from a good ODI series. And Hetmeyer too. If they can play Bravo too and one of them pulls a good innings out of their hat, then good. Doesn't look like they can do it remotely consistently, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beamer View Post
    Not too optimistic about this your tbh. We were progressing really well as a test side at least but the tours of India BD Bangladesh have been disastrous for our batting and injuries/suspensions to key bowlers.

    I can see us bowling England out chesply a couple of times with excellent seam bowling but I can't see us putting up enough runs on the board to compete.

    Also the news that Pybus will be head coach is pretty disastrous. He is universally unpopular with stars and young players alike. Appointing him is the boards equivalent of sticking their middle finger up at the players.
    Surprised about that.

    In South Africa he coached Mark Boucher at Selborne school and then for Border u19s he took them unbeaten at our u19 Week where he had Boucher, Kemp and Ntini under his wing. Then got the Border senior provincial role where he continued Boucher and Ntini's development. 1991-1999

    First stint at the Titans between 2005-09 he helped develop Dale Steyn, Morne Morkel, Paul Harris & Albie Morkel (AB was already mainly with SA team) and his 2nd stint with Titans 2007-09 Faf du Plessis, Farhaan Behardien and Imran Tahir came through in this time.

    2010-2012 he got Richard Levi and Vernon Philander through to the SA team whilst in charge of the Cobras and Stiaan van Zyl was building up an impressive FC record that got test matches down the line.

    In this time he won multiple trophies at Titans and Cobras.

    I really wanted him as SA coach during periods it was available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeamUp View Post
    Surprised about that.
    Noone doubts his ability as coach. But he is seen as toxic by the players due to his terrible man management skills during his years as director of cricket.

    He was basically the hatchetman in the Darren Bravo episode and implemented eligibility rules for selection which left us unable to select many of our best players. He was seen as a board lacky and someone who was very poor at communicating with players to explain decisions.

    He has also done some excellent things like our extended 4 day season, increased number of A tours and professional salaries for FC cricketers. But it's hard to see him succeeding at coaching a bunch of players that don't trust him.

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