Marshall vs Steyn (ODIs)

[jaideep]

Who is the better ODI bowler?
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w
Malcolm Marshall . 136 134 7175 4233 157 4/18 26.9 3.53 45.7 6 0

Dale Steyn . 118 117 5914 4841 185 6/39 26.16 4.91 . 31.9 4 3

 

[trundler]

Steyn I'd say. Both better as test bowlers though.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Different eras of ODIs.

 

[mr_mister]

It's pretty weird that the bloke considered the best test bowler ever doesn't even qualify as an ATG in ODIs

 

[harsh.ag]

He's pretty high on the peak ratings though

 

[Himannv]

Steyn I'd say. Both better as test bowlers though.

Pretty much this.

This is where you'd probably have to appreciate McGrath. He did more or less the same thing in both formats and he was still successful.

 

[Second Spitter]

Garner

 

[trundler]

I wonder what Garner's economy rate would be in today's game. He was almost impossible to thrash because of the variable bounce but bigger bats mean edges and mistimed shots going for boundaries.

 

[Second Spitter]

On the flip-side, given some modern insight, I am fairly certain he could have developed a pretty devastating slower ball like Ambrose did.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

I wonder what Garner's economy rate would be in today's game. He was almost impossible to thrash because of the variable bounce but bigger bats mean edges and mistimed shots going for boundaries.

Let's say it would hover around 5

 

[Red]

Let's say it would hover around 5

Starc is 4.9. I'd imagine Garner would be closer to 4 than 5.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

It's pretty weird that the bloke considered the best test bowler ever doesn't even qualify as an ATG in ODIs

Gavaskar almost same

 

[Napa]

Who is the better ODI bowler?
Mat Inns Balls Runs Wkts BBM Ave Econ SR 4w 5w
Malcolm Marshall . 136 134 7175 4233 157 4/18 26.9 3.53 45.7 6 0

Dale Steyn . 118 117 5914 4841 185 6/39 26.16 4.91 . 31.9 4 3

Marshall's Econ is considerably better, but he bowled during a time when scores were 50 to 70 less. Taking that into account, I would say Steyn is slightly ahead.

 

[ankitj]

What is the cut off for great economy rates in this decade? Likes of McGrath and Pollock retired only a decade ago and until then 4.0 was my mental cutoff.

 

[marc71178]

Gavaskar almost same

Apart from being far from the best Test batsman you mean?

 

[GoodAreasShane]

For all Steyn's undisputed quality, he could go a bit wrong in ODIs from time to time. Take the 2015 WC semi final for example, a lot is made of selecting an undercooked Philander over the fit and firing Kyle Abbott, but Steyn having a real off day was probably a greater contributing factor to their loss. Personally if anything I would rate Morne Morkel equal or almost slightly ahead as a 50 over bowler

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

He's human; by the way.

 

[Second Spitter]

Marshall had one excellent World Cup (83) and one poor World Cup (91/92). I don't recall the circumstances of him missing in '87 during the peak of his career.

 

[vcs]

For all Steyn's undisputed quality, he could go a bit wrong in ODIs from time to time. Take the 2015 WC semi final for example, a lot is made of selecting an undercooked Philander over the fit and firing Kyle Abbott, but Steyn having a real off day was probably a greater contributing factor to their loss. Personally if anything I would rate Morne Morkel equal or almost slightly ahead as a 50 over bowler

Agreed, I think Steyn in ODIs is overrated, though he was excellent in the 2011 WC and brilliant in that format in 2013. Apart from that, he's been sporadic and I'd take Morkel over him.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Apart from being far from the best Test batsman you mean?

Bradman is not a batsMAN