World Cup draft, a player from each WC must be picked

[ankitj]

I feel like a lot of people's opinions re: ODI cricketers are influenced somewhat by their Test ability. Even ATG ones.

If that was the case Dhoni wouldn't have been the first to get picked.

 

[stephen]

What took so long for Bevan to be picked?! He is typically a lock in top 10 ODI player countdowns. Is RedHill having an influence on everyone?

It may be because statistically he wasn't quite as strong in World Cups as he was in most other series.

 

[Red]

If you actually calculate Bevan's average by innings but discount not outs, he only averages 35. Pretty much the same as plenty of other contemporaries, including Hussey and Mark Waugh. Sachin averaged 40 and Kohli is averaging 50. Smith averages 36 per innings.

He finished a couple of games and a myth developed around his abilities. He wasn't actually as good as people make out, and he was/is nowhere near the GOAT in that format. Not even top 10 IMO.

 

[stephen]

If you actually calculate Bevan's average by innings but discount not outs, he only averages 35. Pretty much the same as plenty of other contemporaries, including Hussey and Mark Waugh. Sachin averaged 40 and Kohli is averaging 50. Smith averages 36 per innings.

He finished a couple of games and a myth developed around his abilities. He wasn't actually as good as people make out, and he was/is nowhere near the GOAT in that format. Not even top 10 IMO.

You dramatically underrate him and his abilities.

 

[Red]

You dramatically underrate him and his abilities.

I really don't think I do and I'm yet to be convinced otherwise.

Runs per innings tells his true story.

 

[stephen]

I really don't think I do and I'm yet to be convinced otherwise.

Runs per innings tells his true story.

He was by far the best ODI batsman in Australia and was often the difference between victory and defeat. RPI being as high as an opener or someone playing in easier batting conditions is a testament to his abilities, given he spent the majority of his career at 4 and 6.

When Bevan ended up not out, Australia nearly always won.

 

[Red]

He was by far the best ODI batsman in Australia and was often the difference between victory and defeat. RPI being as high as an opener or someone playing in easier batting conditions is a testament to his abilities, given he spent the majority of his career at 4 and 6.

Plenty of individual performances are the difference between victory and defeat. He's no different to anyone else. Hence the myth.

When Bevan ended up not out, Australia nearly always won.

Yeh, well pretty much most ODIs where one of the 4-6 batsmen is not out will result in a win for that team. Doesn't mean much. Give me Mike Hussey any day who could do everything Bevan could do plus hit much more powerfully when required.

 

[randycricfreak]

Allan Donald

 

[trundler]

Having more than one South African should lose you points

 

[bagapath]

Round 3

Shane Warne

 

[Red]

Round 1:

bagapath - MS Dhoni
trundler - Glen McGrath
AndrewB - Viv Richards
morgieb - Muttiah Muralitharan
Sillycowcorner1 - Inzamam
Michaelf77777 - Wasim Akram
Fuller Pilch - AB De Villiers
randycricfreak - Virat Kohli
weldone - Sachin Tendulkar
kingkallis – Ricky Ponting
mr_mister - Kumar Sangakkarra
srbkhshk – Adam Gilchrist
Teuton – Joel Garner
Red Hill – Curtly Ambrose

Round 2:

Red Hill – Shane Watson
Teuton – Richard Hadlee
srbkhshsk – Imran Khan
Mr mister – Dennis Lillee
king kallis – Kapil Dev
weldone – Shaun Pollock
randycricfreak – Clive Lloyd
Fuller Pilch – Zaheer Abbas
Michaelf77777 – Javed Miandad
SillyCowCorner1 -
morgieb –Lance Klusener
AndrewB – Sanath Jayasuriya
trundler – Mark Waugh
bagapath – Waqar Younis

Round 3:

morgieb –Michael Bevan
weldone – Brendon McCullum
Michaelf77777 – Brian Lara
Teuton – Dean Jones
srbkhshsk – Hashim Amla
Red Hill – Greg Chappell
bagapath – Shane Warne
trundler – Saqlain Mushtaq
mr_mister – Michael Holding
randycricfreak – Allan Donald
SillyCowCorner1 -
king kallis -
Fuller Pilch -
AndrewB –

Round 4:

AndrewB -
Fuller Pilch -
king kallis -
SillyCowCorner1 -
randycricfreak -
mr_mister -
trundler -
bagapath -
Red Hill -
srbkhshsk -
Teuton -
Michaelf77777 -
weldone -
morgieb -

 

[Red]

Silly cow corner missed last round so KK could probably pick if he wants.

 

[stephen]

Fmd people under rate Australian players on this forum. Warne should have gone forest round given he basically won the 99 WC single handedly. Morgieb should gave picked him up second round to have the best spin bowling attack by 13 country miles.

 

[mr_mister]

Warne featured in only two WCs, cups filled with ATGs.

 

[trundler]

Fmd people under rate Australian players on this forum. Warne should have gone forest round given he basically won the 99 WC single handedly. Morgieb should gave picked him up second round to have the best spin bowling attack by 13 country miles.

The 2 greatest ODI spinners already got picked though

 

[stephen]

Warne featured in only two WCs, cups filled with ATGs.

True but there still aren't many world class spinners so they should be the first players picked in any draft IMO.

 

[stephen]

The 2 greatest ODI spinners already got picked though

Saqlain is overrated in ODIs. Particularly when we're talking world cups. Warne has a better record in them.

 

[trundler]

Fmd people under rate Australian players on this forum.

A much, much likelier explanation is you overrate some Australian players.

 

[trundler]

Saqlain is overrated in ODIs. Particularly when we're talking world cups. Warne has a better record in them.

He outdoes Warne on basically every metric in overall career stats though. Much like how Warne does him in tests.

 

[stephen]

He outdoes Warne on basically every metric in overall career stats though. Much like how Warne does him in tests.

Yeah but this draft is specifically about world cups.

If I could choose between Warne and Saqlain to play in a world cup final for me I'd take Warne in a heartbeat, particularly on unfriendly surfaces.