Moeen Ali racially abused

[trundler]

Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean everyone else should have the same threshold for bull**** as you, nor that their reaction isn't justified.

 

[andmark]

So was he actually called a terrorist ?

And yes I live in South Africa so I have 'walked in his shoes'

I cannot think of any reason other than a reference to terrorism as to why someone would call a Muslim "Osama".

 

[Heboric]

Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean everyone else should have the same threshold for bull**** as you, nor that their reaction isn't justified.

I am not the one using strong language like 'OMFG' and 'JFC'. So maybe you should look at those Internet Tough Guys

 

[Prince EWS]

It's like if Rabada called Anderson Hitler, would that really be considered racist?

If he did it to imply some sort of collective inferiority on Anderson's part because of his race, then yeah, it would be.

 

[Adders]

I am not the one using strong language like 'OMFG' and 'JFC'. So maybe you should look at those Internet Tough Guys

No but you are the one that seems to think its ok to tarnish all Muslims with bin ladens brush.

 

[fredfertang]

It's all a far cry from when the Aussies nicknamed Mike Brearley 'The Ayatollah' because he grew a silly beard, and everybody laughed with them

 

[vicleggie]

It's like the Harbhajan incident, if there's no proof and no admission of guilt, can't do much.

The accused should be named though, so he can get talked about like Harbhajan did

 

[morgieb]

It's all a far cry from when the Aussies nicknamed Mike Brearley 'The Ayatollah' because he grew a silly beard, and everybody laughed with them

Well society has changed significantly since the 70's.

Plus Brearley isn't Muslim.

 

[vicleggie]

Really ??

Truly?

 

[OverratedSanity]

If it's just a light hearted jab at moeen's appearance I can sort of buy it being an inappropriate but not necessarily full on racist remark. If the comment was made in a derogatory manner with the intent of demeaning him, and it seems moeen is saying it was, then it's racist as **** afaic.

No but you are the one that seems to think its ok to tarnish all Muslims with bin ladens brush.

He didn't say that. Calm down.

 

[trundler]

Well society has changed significantly since the 70's.

Plus Brearley isn't Muslim.

Make Cricket Great Again

 

[Black_Warrior]

Can't see a thread but it deserves one.

According to the papers today in Moeen Ali's new book he says an Australian cricketer said to him "Take that Osama" on the field during the 2015 ashes.

Cricket Australia are supposed to be investigating.

Imagine my surprise

 

[OverratedSanity]

It's like the Harbhajan incident, if there's no proof and no admission of guilt, can't do much.

The accused should be named though, so he can get talked about like Harbhajan did

They just need to find something that sounds similar to what was heard but actually was a reference to moeen's mother. "something something yo mama..."?

 

[Spikey]

If it's just a light hearted jab at moeen's appearance I can sort of buy it being an inappropriate but not necessarily full on racist remark. If the comment was made in a derogatory manner with the intent of demeaning him, and it seems moeen is saying it was, then it's racist as **** afaic.

i mean, it's been said by someone in the 2015 australian team.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Can't wait for the hot takes "Muslims aren't a race so it wasn't technically racist"

 

[morgieb]

If it's just a light hearted jab at moeen's appearance I can sort of buy it being an inappropriate but not necessarily full on racist remark. If the comment was made in a derogatory manner with the intent of demeaning him, and it seems moeen is saying it was, then it's racist as **** afaic.

I feel like it wasn't intended to be racist, but was said in an insulting manner.

 

[andmark]

If it's just a light hearted jab at moeen's appearance I can sort of buy it being an inappropriate but not necessarily full on racist remark. If the comment was made in a derogatory manner with the intent of demeaning him, and it seems moeen is saying it was, then it's racist as **** afaic.



He didn't say that. Calm down.

Nah, I've got to disagree re the tone which he said it influencing the extent to which it's racist. If we think stupid impromptu jibes as being less racist than a full-on character assessment, then it's a very slippery slope.

 

[Prince EWS]

If it's just a light hearted jab at moeen's appearance I can sort of buy it being an inappropriate but not necessarily full on racist remark.

Hmm I can sort of see this, but the aesthetic similarities between Moeen and Osama are inextricably linked to his race (and religion I guess, if we're talking beard here).

And even if this were the case you'd hope the player would just own up to it, admit this and apologise for not considering that it could be misinterpreted as racism. Seems like he's just flat out denied it (assuming he didn't actually call him a "part-timer", lol).

 

[flibbertyjibber]

I cannot think of any reason other than a reference to terrorism as to why someone would call a Muslim "Osama".

Unless it is his name.

Friend of mine had trouble with their neighbours son who is called Osama and people claimed they were being racist when they called him by his name.

 

[fredfertang]

Well society has changed significantly since the 70's.

Plus Brearley isn't Muslim.

Exactly my point, and Brearley was in the vanguard of those in sport who opposed racism - he got very cross when Middlesex signed Vince Van Der Bijl in 1980 because he was so anti South Africa, yet iirc he laughed at the Ayatollah reference as well