Worst regular all-rounder for a top side

[Mr Miyagi]

I'd say he was being utilised as a pinch-hitter a lot of the time there ^

Yeah looks that way. He def scored fast when up the order.

I notice the pinch hitter has started to disappear a lot from ODI cricket. Batsmen are expected to up the tempo themselves now.

 

[jimmy101]

Yeah looks that way. He def scored fast when up the order.

I notice the pinch hitter has started to disappear a lot from ODI cricket. Batsmen are expected to up the tempo themselves now.

Yeah, shame about that really. I always used to enjoy watching pinch-hitters going the tonk early on. Very exciting & unpredictable whilst it lasted.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Yeah, shame about that really. I always used to enjoy watching pinch-hitters going the tonk early on. Very exciting & unpredictable whilst it lasted.

I loved a Lance Cairns tonk display myself. But I do prefer the modern game overall with all batsmen looking to get on with it and seeking to deliver.

I think there is room for the pinch hitter still, though with appropriate players in the appropriate team.

 

[jimmy101]

I loved a Lance Cairns tonk display myself. But I do prefer the modern game overall with all batsmen looking to get on with it and seeking to deliver.

I think there is room for the pinch hitter still, though.

I'd love the modern game too if they reset the rules back to circa-1995 ;-)

 

[TheJediBrah]

It may be generous, but look at where he batted:

Batting records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo

5 games at 3
1 game at 4
1 game at 5
1 game at 7

then 6 games at 8 and 3 at 9.

What was he - a specialist bowler/pinch hitter?

pretty much tbh

It's like Australia figured they really want an all-rounder, and this bowler looked like he can bat alright, he made a ton in the Shield the other week . . . so why not. New ODI all-rounder right here.

 

[Migara]

Dunno man. You call Ravi Ratnayeke (with a FC average of 28 and 1 hundred) an all-rounder but not Chandana with a FC average over 30 and 8 hundreds? I'd defer to your clearly superior knowledge of Sri Lankan cricket but those classifications just don't make sense.

Ravi Ratnayeke was a test regular and had some decent performances, probably somewhere close to Dilruwan Perera. May be he was touch better tha his average of 36 suggests. But none of these were all rounders. Ravi was the thing closest to it.

 

[Migara]

Surely Asoka de Silva is a contender?

Was not an allrounder. Decent leggy though. Saw in a masters match around 1993, cleaning Greame Pollock with a absolute beauty of a slider. Guy had some skills bowling, but none at batting or umpiring.

 

[a massive zebra]

Was not an allrounder. Decent leggy though. Saw in a masters match around 1993, cleaning Greame Pollock with a absolute beauty of a slider. Guy had some skills bowling, but none at batting or umpiring.

Well I don't doubt your knowledge of Sri Lankan cricket is much greater than mine, but I'm not sure how someone with no batting skills can average mid 20s in first class cricket.

 

[Daemon]

Well I don't doubt your knowledge of Sri Lankan cricket is much greater than mine, but I'm not sure how someone with no batting skills can average mid 20s in first class cricket.

SL FC back in the day was notoriously crap I believe. Basically a Club competition as opposed to Regional (still is today).

 

[Mr Miyagi]

SL FC back in the day was notoriously crap I believe. Basically a Club competition as opposed to Regional (still is today).

24 premier cricket clubs to get first-class status

According to this article, they went back up to 24 sides in 2016/17.

 

[TheJediBrah]

lol well that explains why there are so many Sri Lankan first-class cricketers always advertising to come and play for Melbourne clubs as overseas pros if half the cricketers in the country are First-class players

 

[Maximas]

Yep, SL first class cricket is literally still just the Colombo Club circuit (which was traditionally fed by graduates from Colombo's prestigious schools).

 

[marc71178]

Well I don't doubt your knowledge of Sri Lankan cricket is much greater than mine, but I'm not sure how someone with no batting skills can average mid 20s in first class cricket.

Same way Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds I guess, tripe competition not worthy of being called first class.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Same way Jadeja has 3 triple hundreds I guess, tripe competition not worthy of being called first class.

Jadeja is actually technically proficient against seamers not getting assistance and finger spinners who are, he is a more than classy batsman. In fact, he's almost like a bully.

And I have watched him bully, with the bat in hand, England and Australia at home in tests. Thoroughly entertaining too mind you. I love his sword dance.

When Jesse Ryder opens the bowling for Essex with success and Jeetan Patel is the top wicket-taking spinner each year, County Cricket fans are in a bit of a glass house against the Ranji.

 

[Borges]

Well there is a fairly unusual gap between Jadeja's test and FC averages: 29 vs 44.

There will always be the odd outlier like this: Graeme Hick, for example with 31 and 52.

 

[trundler]

One cannot talk of such batters without mentioning Ramprakash.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Well there is a fairly unusual gap between Jadeja's test and FC averages: 29 vs 44.

There will always be the odd outlier like this: Graeme Hick, for example with 31 and 52.

Jeetan Patel FC 33 (much lower in county I wager), Tests: 47.35

Jesse Ryder FC 30 (much lower in county I wager) Tests: 56.00

Jadeja is a bully as a batsman. The differences are readily explicable. But he does bully well. Even in home tests, let alone FC.

What isn't explicable is why Jesse Ryder took so many wickets in county cricket if its a competition worthy of being called first class and the Ranji isn't for batting dominance.
(I already know that the answer is the nibble on English green pitches in county with a Duke's ball seam - but it is the principle that matters)

To me they're the opposite dies of the same coin. I totally blame Patel's failed recall to the NZC team on weak county cricket standards that fooled NZC selectors into thinking he was a test standard player finally.

 

[Flem274*]

the bloke calling de grandhomme the worst is an idiot

 

[Mr Miyagi]

the bloke calling de grandhomme the worst is an idiot

I suspect he's trolling. Lord CdG's fame extend beyond NZ and Zimbabwe.

 

[Migara]

Jadeja was not played as a top order batsman. Quite solid with technique.