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*Official* Pakistan tour of Ireland, England and Scotland 2018

Bijed

International Regular
Bowling aside, you could replace one of the worse specialist batsmen in the side atm with Woakes and I reckon it'd be at worst a sideways step batting wise.

Moeen will probably be back before too long, but I think it'll do him some good to have had some time away from the test scene, though I wouldn't really want him back until he's played a few county matches.

As for the home/away argument for leaving out these two, we've basically improved our home/away consistency by making us win fewer tests at home, i.e closer to the number we win away
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
I really don't understand why a Porter or a Coad wasn't tried out against Pakistan. Seemed the perfect time to introduce a hungry upcoming talent.
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
Vaughan's ''drop Broad'' comments have made (sport) headline news on BBC. It is a slow day I suppose, when the second biggest story concerns some idiot footballer with a machine gun tattooed on his leg.
 

Moonsorrow999

U19 Debutant
I really don't understand why a Porter or a Coad wasn't tried out against Pakistan. Seemed the perfect time to introduce a hungry upcoming talent.
Cause all through the winter they were criticised for not having any pace and now they're trying to over compensate by picking a guy who apparently has pace but in practice never ever produces that in the test arena and has very poor ODI and test records. What would happen if they picked Porter and he sucked? They'd get hammered cause he's just the same as everything else, England have no variety.
 

cnerd123

likes this
Bring in a new player over tried and tested player with a bad season - get criticized
Bring in tried and tested player with a bad season over a new player - get criticized

No winning as an England selector
 

Borges

International Regular
Cause all through the winter they were criticised for not having any pace and now they're trying to over compensate by picking a guy who apparently has pace
He may have been a good pick for playing on Australian wickets; those guys can't produce a decent cricket pitch even if you put a gun to their pet kangaroo's head.

On second thoughts, maybe it's the kangaroo that oversees the preparation of test match pitches over there; maybe putting a gun to its head wouldn't be such a bad idea.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
Bayliss has advanced a culture of attacking batsmanship that has worked wonders in the LO scene. In test cricket, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler play a brand of cricket that maynot be ideal against a swinging ball. Ideally your top 4 should have solid defensive technique - and slow cricket should be the first option for them until and unless the team is in a safe situation when pushing for quick runs can cause little harm. tbh Root has a good defensive technique, but as a modern cross-format batsman he doesn't display that skill very often. Unfortunately only an aging Cook plays that way. England needs a couple of batsmen to play the role that Jonathan Trott used to. Even a Nick Compton would do in the current scenario.
 
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Groundking

International Debutant
Bayliss has advanced a culture of attacking batsmanship that has worked wonders in the LO scene. In test cricket, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler play a brand of cricket that maynot be ideal against a swinging ball. Ideally your top 4 should have solid defensive technique - and slow cricket should be the first option for them until and unless the team is in a safe situation when pushing for quick runs can cause little harm. tbh Root has a good defensive technique, but as a modern cross-format batsman he doesn't display that skill very often. Unfortunately only an aging Cook plays that way. England needs a couple of batsmen to play the role that Jonathan Trott used to. Even a Nick Compton would do in the current scenario.
No, Nick Compton was an abject failure in every single way.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
really liked what I saw of Mohammad Abbas. Reminds me a bit of Asif. Relies on subtle movements off the seam to get batsmen out.

I hope he develops over the course of the next few years and doesn't fall by the wayside.
Very good bowler though not as good Asif who was on target to reach Pollock level greatness if not McGrath if he had kept his straight and I am not talking just about the spot fixing scandal I have seldom seen a bowler getting top class batsman out with so many jaffas.

Abbas is a very consistent wicket to wicket bowler he does not bowl as many unplayable balls as Asif or Phialnder however he is always at the batsman and gives them no opportunity to relax at any stage. I have still doubts over his long term impact with the Kokkaburra ball on flat pitches when batsmen have worked out some plans against him but nevertheless a very good addition in the squad and will play a pivotal role in overseas tours.
 

Mr Miyagi

Banned
Very good bowler though not as good Asif who was on target to reach Pollock level greatness if not McGrath if he had kept his straight and I am not talking just about the spot fixing scandal I have seldom seen a bowler getting top class batsman out with so many jaffas.

Abbas is a very consistent wicket to wicket bowler he does not bowl as many unplayable balls as Asif or Phialnder however he is always at the batsman and gives them no opportunity to relax at any stage. I have still doubts over his long term impact with the Kokkaburra ball on flat pitches when batsmen have worked out some plans against him but nevertheless a very good addition in the squad and will play a pivotal role in overseas tours.


I'm not saying you're right, I'm not saying you're wrong. But I like the way you think. It reminds me of DK Lillee saying he would have got better results if he had bowled in the channel with line and length like Hadlee but that he just just lacked the discipline to.

Dennis himself thinks his results might have been even better overall had he bowled more like Richard Hadlee, concentrating on line and length. But he never could resist the lure of the interpersonal battle with the batsman, and this led to Dennis's more varied approach: inviting strokes, risking bouncers and yorkers.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/lillee-was-the-best-bowler-i-played-against-20111027-1mm7c.html
 
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Flem274*

123/5
it's not over-aggression that's killing england, it's not being very good in general

i missed this test but you could drive a bus through the gaps between bat in pad that were discovered down under, and some of them seem to have completely forgotten where off stump is judging by how often they nick off in the channel
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Bring in a new player over tried and tested player with a bad season - get criticized
Bring in tried and tested player with a bad season over a new player - get criticized

No winning as an England selector
LDLLDLLL

Seems that way.
 

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