Yep - cant see how the list can change unless Warnie gets a knighthood, I suppose the names all start with s already.
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Nah most good players have produced over the years already
Leg Spin was dead until Warne came onto the scene.
Its dying again though....noone bowls leg spin.
Upul Chandana will revive the art of legspin through the majesty of dance.
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It's like saying that until Imran Khan came, the first true fast bowler from the subcontinent, fast bowling was dead in the cricket world.
Aside from MacGill, a world class leg spinner hasn't come from Australia, England, South Africa or New Zealand since Warne's debut. So, it appears Warne's legacy is greatly exaggerated.
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It wasn't until the game at Bellerive Oval in 1995\96, after, incidentally, a chat with Warne, that Mushtaq became a player of note. He was quite some player too, but frustratingly only for 18 Tests over a a couple of years. He then went truly woeful, and in his last 16 Tests never had anything even remotely resembling a good performance. Quite why this should have been has always been, to me, one of the most baffling things in cricket, even more so when in 2003 he came over here to play regularly and has torn everything up ever since (not that this affected his Test performance).
The wasted talent of Mushtaq has always been one of my most frustrating cricketing mementos.
As for Kumble - I don't think you can really call him an orthodox wristspinner TBH. Kumble is one of a kind. And he too had only played 1 - utterly ineffective - Test before Warne's debut.
If there was someone who proved that Warne did not revive a dead art in wristspin, it's Abdul Qadir, but he too was a wasted talent.
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It's not just that Qadir revived leg-spin, he single-handedly revived spin in an era where fast bowlers ran amock. Just look at the famous fasties of his time from WIndian packs to Aus, Eng and the 4 ace all-rounders.
Then look at the spinners of that time. DDoshi, Siva, Hemmings, Edmunds, Emburey, Tauseef, Qasim...not a single spinner could scale the 200 Test wkt benchmark.
It is Qadir who alone revived the art and received rave reviews from the foreign press.
And it was he who was used in an attacking role in ODI's, something spinners were loathe to experiment with.
He must be given this credit.
Shane just took it to new heights
My point was that Warne's arrival didn't somehow instantly inspire a new generation of spinners to appear on the international stage, especially since the only noteworthy leg spinners of the decade had appeared before him. What he did do was make leg spin attractive and appealing after a long time, but that's different from saying he singlehandely saved leg spin from nonexistence.
I remember going to a coaching clinic when I was about 15 and couldnt bowl "quick" - Richie Benaud gave me an entire kit of Slazenger gear (a dream come true at my age) because I was the only one who tried to bowl spin
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