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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Scarlett
    Neil, what you fail to realise - through ignorance or bias - was that because there was very little bowling support opposition batsmen frequently blocked out Hadlee and scored runs from the pie-throwers at the other end. This made Hadlee work bloody hard for his wickets.
    The same often happens to Muralitharan. Either way, I'm not about to start an argument over who the greatest bowler of all time is. I've already said that Hadlee is one of the greats, and I don't believe that it's worth arguing who is the best out of six or seven fantastic players as equally decent cases can be made for all of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    The same often happens to Muralitharan. Either way, I'm not about to start an argument over who the greatest bowler of all time is. I've already said that Hadlee is one of the greats, and I don't believe that it's worth arguing who is the best out of six or seven fantastic players as equally decent cases can be made for all of them.
    Hear hear .

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    its unfair

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    Hear hear .
    its unfair not having sachin there..the kind of pressure he takes on and kind of quality he has i am sorry to say the wisden cricketers list is unfair....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford_GTHO351 View Post
    Sir Donald Bradman
    Sir Garfield Sobers
    Sir Jack Hobbs
    Shane Warne
    Sir Vivian Richards

    Do you all agree with Wisden's choices for their five cricketers of the century or should someone else be in that list?
    Imran Khan was a better cricketer than all of them with the exception of mighty Sir Don Bradman.And Shane Warne doesn't deserve to be on that list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atulduggal View Post
    its unfair not having sachin there..the kind of pressure he takes on and kind of quality he has i am sorry to say the wisden cricketers list is unfair....
    No. I don't agree with that list, but I wouldn't have Tendulkar there either. Mine would include Barnes, Sobers and Bradman for sure and the other two would be up for debate.

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    Imran Khan was a better cricketer than all of them with the exception of mighty Sir Don Bradman.And Shane Warne doesn't deserve to be on that list.
    No, I have to disagree with the first part. I certainly would not have Tendulkar, and probably not have Imran either. But then again, I agree that Warne shouldn't be there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    No. I don't agree with that list, but I wouldn't have Tendulkar there either. Mine would include Barnes, Sobers and Bradman for sure and the other two would be up for debate.



    No, I have to disagree with the first part. I certainly would not have Tendulkar, and probably not have Imran either. But then again, I agree that Warne shouldn't be there too.
    Imran Khan was a better allround cricketer than all of them with the exception of Bradman,did much more for his team than most of them did and deserved to be placed at no.2 in that list.Imran Khan is well ahead of Tendulkar,Sobers,Barnes.For me the top 5 cricketers of 20th century are;

    1.Don Bradman
    then daylight.......................................... ........
    2.Imran Khan
    3.Viv Richards
    4.Jack Hobbs
    5.Richard Hadlee
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    No, I have to disagree with the first part. I certainly would not have Tendulkar, and probably not have Imran either. But then again, I agree that Warne shouldn't be there too.
    I think Warne deserves to be there, if only so you can get a spinner in. My list would be Bradman, Warne, Hobbs, Sobers and Marshall.

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    I think the original list is great but there are many guys that have a great case in being in there. Imran Khan, as has been suggested, being one.
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    I thought it almost perfect except maybe Warne was a little lucky
    You know it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    I thought it almost perfect except maybe Warne was a little lucky
    a little?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anil View Post
    a little?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
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    I think we need to remember that the list was put out in either 1999 or 2000. I think there were other players who may have gotten in ahead of Warne, but one needs to remember that Murali's impact at that time was not what Warne's had been. That may well be different now, and please bare in mind that by impact in this context, I mean the effect on the way the game was played.
    By the late 80s, there was a school of thought that spin bowling was dead away from the subcontinent, owing to the Windies dominance, which a lot of other sides tried to copy. Certainly, front line spinners were largely an after-thought in ODIs, with the slow bowling often done by part-timers or by finger spinners. Leggies were almost unheard of in that form of the game.
    So, I can see why the panel picked him from that point of view. Personally, I would have had any number ahead of him, but then I'd have had a few ahead of Viv as well.
    A few posters from the old part of the thread mentioned Lara, but iirc, he went through a bit of a trot in the late 90s when his average dropped below 50 for a time. That may explain why he didn't get as many votes as he otherwise would have if the poll was conducted today.
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    In my opinion, you cannot judge the impact of someone until a decade or so after they've retired, so I don't think any active or recently retired players should be on there. People's opinion of players often change after they've retired and the memory isn't as fresh anymore.
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