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Wisden's Cricketers of the Century

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funnygirl

State Regular
someone needs links ,statsguru what not, to recognise the greatness of a particular bowler .However one of the greatest peers of that particular bowler doesn't need any of these things to make an opinion.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
silentstriker said:
Nope. Two against Zimbabwe.

One against WI where he did 3/72 and 2/52. Hardly 'collapsing'. The other in NZ where he took 2/20 but Zaheer took 5/29. And he took 3/33 in the second innings, while two NZ'ers took 4/41 (And Tuffney took four twice in the match).
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So they were against Zimbabwe, so what? Zimbabwe were Test-class at that time.

They may not have collapsed spectacularly like Pakistan did at Old Trafford in 2006 or West Indies at The Oval in 2004, but they still allowed Ashish Nehra to get better figures than he should be getting. Proving it happens to any bowler if they get enough chances.
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
funnygirl said:
someone needs links ,statsguru what not, to recognise the greatness of a particular bowler .However one of the greatest peers of that particular bowler doesn't need any of these things to make an opinion.
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Indeed, and maybe in not doing so they might just ignore stuff they should be taking account of.
 
Dissector

Dissector

International Debutant
My four easy picks would be Bradman,Sobers,Imran and Hadlee.

The fifth is a bit of a problem if we are being strict about the century. I would pick Murali but I don't think his achievements before 2000 merit inclusion.

Perhaps Hobbs though I seriously wonder about the quality of the pace bowlers in his time. Still, you probably need at least one player from the first 30 years of the century so Hobbs is probably the best choice.
 
Goughy

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
archie mac said:
Anyway I think Akram over Donald, but not much in it, and on his day Donald was as good as any bowler in history imho:)
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For someone who has a reputation for bashing Akram and the fact I adore Donald, it may suprise people that I have Wasim marginally ahead of Donald.

I would pay just to watch Donald runup and he amazed me on many occasions with his athleticism and fire, but I think I have to leave personal preference to one side and go with Akram.

They are both in that same bracket though, just a step down from the greatest.
 
shortpitched713

shortpitched713

International Captain
funnygirl said:
U don't agree with me ,okay .But u know Ambrose agrees with me.:laugh:

http://www.hindustandainik.com/htcricket/60_1964719.htm
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KaZoH0lic said:
Donald himself called Wasim the greatest seam-bowler he'd ever seen.
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nightprowler10 said:
Wise man that Lara. Border also said something along the lines of "If I could be born again I'd want to come back as Wasim Akram".
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KaZoH0lic said:
The interviews in question are up on YouTube. One thing you notice from them is how breathless Donald gets when talking about how good Wasim was.
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KaZoH0lic said:
Wait, my bad, he just said greatest.

But yes, he did, as well as swing.

Also Lara said:

Over my 15 or 16 years of playing international cricket in Tests and one-day internationals, Wasim Akram is definitely the most outstanding bowler I've ever faced. - Lara rates Akram better than McGrath
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Yes, yes, next Dennis Lillee here we come!
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Goughy said:
For someone who has a reputation for bashing Akram and the fact I adore Donald, it may suprise people that I have Wasim marginally ahead of Donald.

I would pay just to watch Donald runup and he amazed me on many occasions with his athleticism and fire, but I think I have to leave personal preference to one side and go with Akram.

They are both in that same bracket though, just a step down from the greatest.
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Thank you for that Goughy. The way this discussion was going I thought someone is soon going to place him one step 'up' from the greatest :)
 
shortpitched713

shortpitched713

International Captain
SJS said:
Thank you for that Goughy. The way this discussion was going I thought someone is soon going to place him one step 'up' from the greatest :)
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Nah, all we need is a couple of pointed questions at McGrath and Tendulkar and it will be done and dusted. Wasim Akram will be clearly known as the best bowler of our time. And how will we know that? Cause all of his peers said so of course. 8-)
 
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funnygirl

State Regular
some people here who ''know every thing about cricket and are the final authority to say an opinion '' are the best cricket critics .And if some one says Wasim is okay ,means he is so merciful towards Wasim . Thats he is giving a favour .
 
Turbinator

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
funnygirl said:
some people here who ''know every thing about cricket and are the final authority to say an opinion '' are the best cricket critics .And if some one says Wasim is okay ,means he is so merciful towards Wasim . Thats he is giving a favour .
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And some people here just don't know what the hell they're on about.

:p
 
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