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    I think that LAra most certainly deserved to be there. His 375 in 1994 as well as his 213 and 153* v Australia in 1999 were 3 of the best innings ever witnessed. Add the first class record of 501* within 6 weeks of the 375 and one really has to wonder. I would put him there in place of IVA Richards. I think Warne is there mainly because of balance, not filling the top 5 places with batsmen.

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    I think that three places - Bradman, Sobers, Hobbs - are fairly unarguable - but everybody you ask will give two different alternatives for the last two spots.

    For me... hmm... on balance I'd agree with the Wisden list - with possibly Imran at six.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    I think that three places - Bradman, Sobers, Hobbs - are fairly unarguable - but everybody you ask will give two different alternatives for the last two spots.

    For me... hmm... on balance I'd agree with the Wisden list - with possibly Imran at six.
    Why is Hobbs position unarguable? Hammond was just as good a batsman and was aslo a great slip fielder and useful bowler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a massive zebra
    Why is Hobbs position unarguable? Hammond was just as good a batsman and was aslo a great slip fielder and useful bowler.
    OK - Two positions then!

    My reasoning was sheer weight of runs, centuries and longevity,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup
    OK - Two positions then!

    My reasoning was sheer weight of runs, centuries and longevity,
    Hammond was not far behind in terms of weight of runs and centuries. At both first class and Test level he averaged more than Hobbs and had a better innings per century ratio. If you also add his slip fielding and bowling I think he should be ranked higher.

    If you rank people purely on weight of runs and centuries then Tendulkar and Steve Waugh should be placed above Bradman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a massive zebra
    Hammond was not far behind in terms of weight of runs and centuries. At both first class and Test level he averaged more than Hobbs and had a better innings per century ratio. If you also add his slip fielding and bowling I think he should be ranked higher.

    If you rank people purely on weight of runs and centuries then Tendulkar and Steve Waugh should be placed above Bradman.
    You know full well what my point was

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    Some people arenít agreeing with Warne being in there.

    His record isnít great compared to Murali, but he has a disadvantage of playing in Australia rather than Asia. Also, look what heís done for cricket. I donít mean being a goody-2-shoes, of course, but if it wasnít for him, spin would probably be dead by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    Firstly you're looking at records post 2000 which are irrelevant.

    Secondly, Viv's character was immense and makes him all the more memorable.

    I don't recall too many complaints about him at the time.

    I dont know what you mean by ' immense character '.

    Didnt he have 2 or 3 illegitimate kids ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepitch
    I dont know what you mean by ' immense character '.

    Didnt he have 2 or 3 illegitimate kids ?
    Neena Gupta!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepitch
    I dont know what you mean by ' immense character '.

    Didnt he have 2 or 3 illegitimate kids ?
    whats that got to do with anything
    rave down, hit the ground


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehwag309
    Neena Gupta!!
    exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    whats that got to do with anything
    pointing out flaws in the " immense character "

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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepitch
    pointing out flaws in the " immense character "
    why is a flaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Halsey
    Some people aren’t agreeing with Warne being in there.

    His record isn’t great compared to Murali, but he has a disadvantage of playing in Australia rather than Asia. Also, look what he’s done for cricket. I don’t mean being a goody-2-shoes, of course, but if it wasn’t for him, spin would probably be dead by now.
    People keep bringing up that point about him reviving leg spin and all that ****. Spin would have been dead maybe in Australia or england, not in the subcontinent. Shane warne hasnt done anything to revive spin in South Africa or England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swervy
    why is a flaw
    I dont know.....if people uphold someone as the paragon of virtue, I like to bring them down.

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