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    Is AB de Villiers an ATG?

    All formats combined, the guy has got stats, peer reputation, fan following and has contributed in test series win everywhere.

    Do you think he will be remembered in higher recognition to a Clarke or Amla or KP or at same level to all of them?

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    Probably a level below all of them as a test batsman. May end up being the best limited overs cricketer ever though, so overall he's probably a better player.
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    I would say yes to the second question as he is top 5 all time for ODIs. Kohli will break the ton record but AB will finish his career with the best avg x strike rate combo I imagine. Has made six hitting look way too easy the past few years
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    Second question is odd given the thread title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Second question is odd given the thread title.
    He's saying they're not ATGs. I would agree they're just a tier below
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Second question is odd given the thread title.
    Those guys aren't ATGs.

    First question is whether he will end up as ATG?

    If he doesn't, then we have the second question.

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    This is what Cricinfo came up with for the South Africa all-time XI:

    Barry Richards
    Graeme Smith
    Jacques Kallis
    Graeme Pollock
    Dudley Nourse
    Aubrey Faulkner
    Mike Procter
    Shaun Pollock
    Johnny Waite
    Hugh Tayfield
    Allan Donald

    That was back in 2009, but would De Villiers now make the all-time XI eight years later?

    I'm not so sure he would - he wouldn't make it as an opener, nor would he replace Kallis or Pollock, Nourse has a better batting average despite playing in a less batsman-friendly era, and Faulkner and Procter are there for their all-round abilities. So could he come in as the keeper? That's the trickiest position to judge, especially when it comes to stats, and I don't know enough about Johnny Waite to make that assessment.

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    For a SA all time XI, picking AB as the keeper gives you some insane options and flexibility.

    B. Richards
    G. Smith
    J. Kallis
    G. Pollock
    AB. DeVilliers +
    D. Nourse
    A. Faulkner
    M. Procter/ S. Pollock
    H. Tayfield
    D. Steyn
    A. Donald


    Three quicks, plus Kallis, plus a high class offie and a high class leggie.
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    Yeah seems like a good option. Most of Saffers most famous keepers are known for their batting anyway. Cameron, Lindsay, not certain about Waite but his average makes it seem that way

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    Boucher ffs

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    Boucher isn't walking onto an ATG side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Flint View Post
    Boucher ffs
    This.

    FWIW I think De Villiers makes it in on his batting alone. There is a romanticism about old players that sometimes isn't warranted.

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    Not saying he walks straight into the atg s.a team but someone listed their keepers without mentioning boucher. Its a joke players of this generation often overlooked

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    All cricket writers and even Boycott has nothing but lavish praise for Waite's career. Considering Lindsay's feats with the bat & Cameron, Jennings, Boucher careers it is safely assumed he gets into the SA all-time XI.

    John Waite - Telegraph


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    Waite is the obvious choice, QDK is the only one who has the potential to take his place in a SA XI but needs his career to go another 10 years .....

    Amla gets into a SA XI, before ABdV for me.... but then I`m pretty biased.
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