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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    How many Shield sides are there, six? That is six overseas players for the entire competition if we are assuming a similar one-player-per-team ratio as the county championship. A reduction from 66 to 60 is hardly a big sacrifice considering the benefits of seeing a few big international names enlivening the competition. Trust me, it is brilliant being able to see international duels which you could not possibly see replicated internationally now for the price of a county championship ticket. You are really missing out here.
    So how are these big international names who don't even play domestic cricket in their own country because of international commitments going to suddenly become available then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    So how are these big international names who don't even play domestic cricket in their own country because of international commitments going to suddenly become available then?
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    Never overestimate the desire of the retired international to slog around a foreign country ahead of his own country (or alternatively a much lower workload for much larger reward).

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Never overestimate the desire of the retired international to slog around a foreign country ahead of his own country (or alternatively a much lower workload for much larger reward).
    I do not understand? If we are discussing English players, our season is at a completely different time from the Australian.

    Everybody seems more concerned about the players and international teams but my argument pertained more to spectators. Kolpak debate aside, there is no doubt that our competition has benefited greatly from overseas signings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    Is that all it exists for, 'Australian selection'? Are there not fans of the state sides, who like the competition for what it is and not merely as some sort of 'nursery' for the international sides?
    I like watching shield cricket.

    But it is a days drive just to get to watch an away game, plus accommodation. So I don't go.

    It is annoying that they have been playing Vic home games in Alice Springs the last couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    I do not understand? If we are discussing English players, our season is at a completely different time from the Australian.

    Everybody seems more concerned about the players and international teams but my argument pertained more to spectators. Kolpak debate aside, there is no doubt that our competition has benefited greatly from overseas signings.
    Yes but the differences between County cricket and Australian State Cricket that affect the prospect of overseas players has been explained already in this thread.

    - More money in County Cricket (easier to attract overseas players)
    - Higher standard of Shield cricket (harder to find available overseas players who would be worth paying/taking the spot of locals)

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    Well it is certainly a lot different from the championship - that is all I know. You may as well just run the competition behind a barbed wire fence and pit Team A verses Team B, and Team C v D - ''best players make Australian squad''.

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    That's just the way things are in Australia. Big Bash and Boxing Day Test are where the interest is, and occasionally other home International matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    Well it is certainly a lot different from the championship - that is all I know. You may as well just run the competition behind a barbed wire fence and pit Team A verses Team B, and Team C v D - ''best players make Australian squad''.
    That's pretty much what already happens tbh.
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    That is a pretty sad domestic competition if it really is as clinical as people are suggesting.
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    It is such a shame. It has existed since 1892-3 - just slightly younger than the county championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    It is such a shame. It has existed since 1892-3 - just slightly younger than the county championship.
    No one really cares tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    No one really cares tbh
    I know. I get that feeling.

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    Tbf it's far more important and we'll respected by the public that you'd think. We recognise its importance but don't really watch our follow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Tbf it's far more important and we'll respected by the public that you'd think. We recognise its importance but don't really watch our follow it.
    Interesting. What percentage of the public do you think could name 3 Shield Cricketers who have never represented Australia? I dont think most people I know could and a lot of them do like sport.

    I said it before but the fact that our Australian players hardly play in our comps hurt so much.

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