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Dale Steyn -Greatest of All Time
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Slifer
International Captain
Atg fast bowlers imo:
WI
Amby
Mm
Holding
Garner
Oz
Lindwall
Lillee
McGrath
Davidson
PAK
Wasim
Imran
Waqar
RSA
Donald
Steyn
S Pollock
Admittedly don't know much about RSA
Nz
Hadlee
Eng
Trueman
My point?? There isn't much to choose between the top 15 or so fast bowlers. I'm sure I've forgotten a few.
WI
Amby
Mm
Holding
Garner
Oz
Lindwall
Lillee
McGrath
Davidson
PAK
Wasim
Imran
Waqar
RSA
Donald
Steyn
S Pollock
Admittedly don't know much about RSA
Nz
Hadlee
Eng
Trueman
My point?? There isn't much to choose between the top 15 or so fast bowlers. I'm sure I've forgotten a few.
a massive zebra
International Captain
Top 5 for me as well, although there is not much between the very best fast bowlers ever so top 10 would be a perfectly reasonable viewpoint. Below Marshall and alongside the likes of Hadlee, Ambrose and McGrath.
Not often I say this but Fredfertang's comments are absurd. Not necessarily in the top five South Africans? Steyn is objectively just so far ahead of all his contemporaries, with a strike rate that compares favourably to pretty much anyone ever in one of the most batting friendly eras, a great record in traditional fast bowling graveyards and a history of ripping through some of the best batting lineups in the world. What more can you ask?
Not often I say this but Fredfertang's comments are absurd. Not necessarily in the top five South Africans? Steyn is objectively just so far ahead of all his contemporaries, with a strike rate that compares favourably to pretty much anyone ever in one of the most batting friendly eras, a great record in traditional fast bowling graveyards and a history of ripping through some of the best batting lineups in the world. What more can you ask?
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CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
His name is there in one in 3 posts of this thread.
Talking in general. Have read countless old threads and while everyone accepts he is ATG, usually he rarely gets mention in top-tier league of bowlers.
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stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ambrose is second only to Marshall amongst West Indies quicks. He's only just a shade behind McGrath I'm most people's minds I'd say.
It's hard to compare bowlers and even harder to do so between countries and across eras but in my mind Steyn is unquestionably the best South African quick of all time. He takes the new pill with Pollock, Donald bowling first change in an AT South African XI.
Top shelf quicks by country:
Aus:
McGrath
Lillee
Lindwall
Davidson
West Indies:
Marshall
Ambrose
Holding
Garner
Roberts
England:
Trueman
New Zealand:
Hadlee
South Africa:
Steyn
Donald
Pakistan:
Wasim
Imran
Waqar
You can pretty much pick any combination of the above fast bowlers and have an ATG fast bowling attack.
It's hard to compare bowlers and even harder to do so between countries and across eras but in my mind Steyn is unquestionably the best South African quick of all time. He takes the new pill with Pollock, Donald bowling first change in an AT South African XI.
Top shelf quicks by country:
Aus:
McGrath
Lillee
Lindwall
Davidson
West Indies:
Marshall
Ambrose
Holding
Garner
Roberts
England:
Trueman
New Zealand:
Hadlee
South Africa:
Steyn
Donald
Pakistan:
Wasim
Imran
Waqar
You can pretty much pick any combination of the above fast bowlers and have an ATG fast bowling attack.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
If only Bond had played more.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I originally had him on the list but then removed him since I'd have to put bowlers like Reid, Harris and Bishop on there. This is about the cream of the crop. Only the very best make it.
Slifer
International Captain
Awta!!!
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Does Clive Rice not make your tier 2?
SeamUp
International Coach
Was sort of looking for guys who were 'opening bowlers' or was their main suit but definitely would be capable to get in there.
Clive was a proper all-rounder but always felt batting was his bread and butter.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Fair enough. I suppose if Rice was picked a young Kallis would have to be as well.
Arachnodouche
International Captain
He's just behind Allan Donald for mine. I thought Donald tapered off for the last three years of his career but his average is still a pretty great 22. Only Australia ever really got the better of him, and not by much; at his peak, he was as arresting to watch as any of the other phenoms from the 90s.
Of course, pitches have eased up drastically since Donald's time, even those in SA itself. So Steyn will always have that argument going for him.
Of course, pitches have eased up drastically since Donald's time, even those in SA itself. So Steyn will always have that argument going for him.
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S.Kennedy
International Vice-Captain
No room for Steve Harmison?