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Stokes Arrested

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
I think I'm beginning to understand why I apparently give better answers to sledger's exam questions than his actual students do.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
I don't really blame Stokes for his reaction. It is understandable and, although I'm not proud of it, I would probably behaved similarly, certainly when I was his age. If someone comes at one with a bottle and then backs off, realising they're overmatched, it does take a level of self-control I'm still not sure I have, to back off when one's brain is flooded with fight or flight hormones.

However, understanding a reaction isn't the same as legal professionals applying the law. If Stokes is deemed to have broken it or even that there's a case to answer, his position on the tour becomes, in my opinion, untenable. As harmful to England's rapidly receding prospects as that is.
 

StephenZA

Hall of Fame Member
I didn't say that. I said it is a regular British city scene and the participants usually end up with a caution and a fine.
I think when there is a bit of a scuffle with a few half-hearted thrown punches, yeah. But that video shows seriously more than that... in my time in England I never saw anything as bad as that. Maybe I just hung out at the wrong pubs.
 
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Hennybogan

U19 12th Man
The unwitting accomplice may end up with a huge payday. Imagine this going down in the US, lawyers would be ringing this bloke's phone off his head.
 

Bijed

International Regular
Ben Stokes is a thug and behaved like one. The idea that he knocked the other bloke out just to be on the safe side in case he was reaching for a gun is like something from a bad episode of EastEnders.
So, any episode of Eastenders, then?
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
I think when there is a bit of a scuffle with a few half-hearted thrown punches, yeah. But that video shows seriously more than that... in my time in England I never saw anything as bad as that. Maybe I just hung out at the wrong pubs.
You didn't visit the Big Market in Newcastle, did you?
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I must say I've found some people's reactions to this on here interesting. Concerning too, in a couple of cases.
 

S.Kennedy

International Vice-Captain
Evidence/stats to back this up please.
You just have to walk down a high street. Do you see those people getting a criminal record? They usually lock them up in the drunk tank overnight, charge them, fine them something like £100 and release them. You lot are acting like this is some unprecedented thing. The only thing unique about it is it concerned an international cricketer.
 

Daemon

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The problem with things like this though is that Stokes' guilt hinges on a question of fact (i.e. did he believe he was being threatened?) rather than a question of law. You don't need to be a judge or legal professional (or even academic!) to answer those sorts of questions.
You do need to not be a complete ****wit though. The general public is dumb, it's why you shouldn't have dumb things like a referendum.

I should clarify that my opinions are exclusively a result of watching multiple juries **** up in movies and tv shows
 
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