Ranking some more all-rounders as batsmen and bowlers, the ODI edition. 33 names

[mr_mister]

Okay so after the success of the last one I've possibly overreached here. This will require a mighty effort from the voters. I wanted to include more batting all-rounders as the last one was full of bowling all-rounders. I got a little carried away. I also wanted to throw in a lot of names people don't typically think of as all-round stars, to hopefully create a few shock results. But I'm sure the status quo should still hold up to an extent. Remember to consider batting SRs and bowling ERs when coming up with your rankings as this is exclusively based on their ODI careers.

There is now 25 names.

It'd be cool if we got at least 30 voters this time.


The participants:


Shane Watson
Andrew Flintoff
Imran Khan
Kapil Dev
Lance Klusener
Sanath Jayasuriya
Scott Styris
Andrew Symonds
Carl Hooper
Shakib Al-Hasan
Chris Cairns
Shahid Afridi
Chris Harris
Richard Hadlee
Hansie Cronje
Abdul Razzaq
Ravi Shastri
Ryan ten Doeschate
Steve Waugh
Ian Harvey
Heath Streak
Ian Botham
Ravindra Jadeja
Shaun Pollock
Jacques Kallis

 

[Engle]

33 names is a bit much. Top 25 would be more palatable (and less work) for all

 

[Lillian Thomson]

I wouldn't have Viv or Greg Chappell in there. They both took less than a wicket a game and didn't always bowl and weren't all rounders. But they'll nick all the batting points and finish top 10.

 

[ankitj]

Ganguly, Steve Waugh, Cronje weren't real all rounders either. A list close to 25 will be good.

 

[smash84]

i think give this a rest. Following so closely on the heels of the test rankings might get reader burnout.

Would be a great thing to have a few weeks from now

 

[AndrewB]

I wouldn't have Viv or Greg Chappell in there. They both took less than a wicket a game and didn't always bowl and weren't all rounders. But they'll nick all the batting points and finish top 10.

If you insist on at least 1 wicket per game, you'd lose Afridi, Jayasuriya, Kallis, Harris, Hooper, Gayle, Symonds, Cairns, Watson, Mathews, Styris, McMillan and Shastri (as well as the 5 players already mentioned). You'd come pretty close to losing Imran (182 wickets in 175 games).

 

[Lillian Thomson]

If you insist on at least 1 wicket per game, you'd lose Afridi, Jayasuriya, Kallis, Harris, Hooper, Gayle, Symonds, Cairns, Watson, Mathews, Styris, McMillan and Shastri (as well as the 5 players already mentioned). You'd come pretty close to losing Imran (182 wickets in 175 games).

Okay forget that. I still wouldn't put them in as all rounders. Sachin bowled quite a bit and took over 150 wickets.

 

[Red]

Ganguly, Steve Waugh, Cronje weren't real all rounders either. A list close to 25 will be good.

Waugh certainly was an AR in the early part of his career. Was one of the best ODI bowlers in the world for a few years, and was called the Iceman for his ability in bowling at the death.

From his debut in 86 through to about 96 he usually bowled his quota or at least a significant part of 10 overs. From about 96 on his bowling took a back seat and he just batted.

Definitely a real all-rounder IMO.

 

[mr_mister]

i think give this a rest. Following so closely on the heels of the test rankings might get reader burnout.

Would be a great thing to have a few weeks from now

Well I certainly don't foresee 30 votes being casted and tallied anytime soon. This is already a long term plan


And I'll cut the list down to 25 now. Nobody begin until I do

Hansie bowled in like 95% of his ODI matches BTW

 

[mr_mister]

Okay forget that. I still wouldn't put them in as all rounders. Sachin bowled quite a bit and took over 150 wickets.

Yeah I've removed quite a few batsmen including viv ganguly and chappell

I've kept Hansie but if people really want him gone I can boot him. Don't see why he shouldn't get a run though, think he was more than just a part time bowler

 

[weldone]

Batting:
1. Jayasuriya
2. Kallis
3. Watson
4. Kapil
5. Hooper
6. S Waugh
7. Symonds
8. Afridi
9. Cairns
10. Imran
11. Flintoff
12. Cronje
13. Klusener
14. Botham
15. Jadeja
16. Styris
17. Shakib
18. RTD
19. Shastri
20. Razzaq
21. Harris
22. Harvey
23. Pollock
24. Streak
25. Hadlee

Bowling:
1. Pollock
2. Hadlee
3. Kapil
4. Imran
5. Flintoff
6. Shakib
7. Afridi
8. Jadeja
9. Styris
10. Hooper
11. Klusener
12. Watson
13. Razzaq
14. Botham
15. Kallis
16. Cairns
17. Symonds
18. Harvey
19. Harris
20. Streak
21. Cronje
22. Shastri
23. Jayasuriya
24. S Waugh
25. RTD

 

[The Battlers Prince]

Batting

Viv Richards
Sanath Jayasuriya
Shane Watson
Jacques Kallis
Greg Chappell
Angelo Matthews
Sourav Ganguly
Shakib Al-Hasan
Carl Hooper
Andrew Symonds
Ryan ten Doeschate
Chris Gayle
Steve Waugh
Hansie Cronje
Chris Cairns
Lance Klusener
James Faulkner
Andrew Flintoff
Imran Khan
Shaun Pollock
Shahid Afridi
Ravindra Jadeja
Heath Streak
Ian Botham
Chris Harris
Ian Harvey
Scott Styris
Kapil Dev
Brian McMillan
Abdul Razzaq
Shoaib Malik
Shaun Pollock
Ravi Shastri
Jacob Oram
Richard Hadlee



Bowling

Richard Hadlee
Shaun Pollock
Andrew Flintoff
Chris Cairns
Kapil Dev
Imran Khan
Lance Klusener
Heath Streak
Shakib Al-Hasan
Ian Botham
James Faulkner
Jacques Kallis
Shane Watson
Ravindra Jadeja
Ryan ten Doeschate
Ravi Shastri
Angelo Matthews
Chris Harris
Scott Styris
Brian McMillan
Shahid Afridi
Andrew Symonds
Carl Hooper
Ian Harvey
Hansie Cronje
Abdul Razzaq
Sanath Jayasuriya
Sourav Ganguly
Jacob Oram
Chris Gayle
Steve Waugh
Shoaib Malik
Greg Chappell
Viv Richards

 

[mr_mister]

I've edited it down to 25 names TBP. If you want I can just remove the excess names when counting your list

 

[Teuton]

Batting
Jacques Kallis
Andrew Symonds
Shane Watson
Sanath Jayasuriya
Hansie Cronje
Lance Klusener
Steve Waugh
Ryan ten Doeschate
Carl Hooper
Imran Khan
Chris Cairns
Shakib Al-Hasan
Shahid Afridi
Scott Styris
Andrew Flintoff
Kapil Dev
Abdul Razzaq
Ravi Shastri
Chris Harris
Shaun Pollock
Ian Botham
Ravindra Jadeja
Heath Streak
Richard Hadlee
Ian Harvey

Bowling
Richard Hadlee
Shaun Pollock
Kapil Dev
Imran Khan
Ian Botham
Shakib Al-Hasan
Andrew Flintoff
Heath Streak
Abdul Razzaq
Lance Klusener
Chris Cairns
Ravindra Jadeja
Shahid Afridi
Carl Hooper
Chris Harris
Ravi Shastri
Steve Waugh
Jacques Kallis
Sanath Jayasuriya
Shane Watson
Ian Harvey
Scott Styris
Hansie Cronje
Andrew Symonds
Ryan ten Doeschate

 

[The Battlers Prince]

I've edited it down to 25 names TBP. If you want I can just remove the excess names when counting your list

Cheers MM that'd be good

 

[marc71178]

Shane Watson
Sanath Jayasuriya
Jacques Kallis
Steve Waugh
Andrew Flintoff
Andrew Symonds
Lance Klusener
Hansie Cronje
Shahid Afridi
Carl Hooper
Ian Botham
Shakib Al-Hasan
Kapil Dev
Chris Cairns
Imran Khan
Scott Styris
Chris Harris
Abdul Razzaq
Ravi Shastri
Ryan ten Doeschate
Shaun Pollock
Ian Harvey
Heath Streak
Richard Hadlee
Ravindra Jadeja


Shaun Pollock
Richard Hadlee
Andrew Flintoff
Imran Khan
Shakib Al-Hasan
Ian Botham
Kapil Dev
Heath Streak
Sanath Jayasuriya
Shane Watson
Lance Klusener
Chris Cairns
Abdul Razzaq
Ian Harvey
Chris Harris
Andrew Symonds
Scott Styris
Carl Hooper
Steve Waugh
Shahid Afridi
Hansie Cronje
Jacques Kallis
Ravindra Jadeja
Ravi Shastri
Ryan ten Doeschate

 

[pdsubbu]

Ravichandran Ashwin?

 

[mr_mister]

Ravichandran Ashwin?

Odi all round record far Inferior to Jadejas imo

Also has a batting average lower than this entire list

 

[Camo999]

Bat

Sanath Jayasuriya

Shane Watson

Kapil Dev

Carl Hooper

Lance Klusener

Jacques Kallis

Shakib Al-Hasan

Andrew Symonds

Steve Waugh

Chris Cairns

Shaun Pollock

Imran Khan

Hansie Cronje

Ryan ten Doeschate

Ian Botham

Shahid Afridi

Andrew Flintoff

Scott Styris

Chris Harris

Ravindra Jadeja

Richard Hadlee

Abdul Razzaq

Ian Harvey

Heath Streak

Ravi Shastri Bowl: Richard Hadlee Imran Khan Kapil Dev Chris Cairns Heath Streak Andrew Flintoff Shaun Pollock Ian Botham Ian Harvey Shakib Al-Hasan Sanath Jayasuriya Shahid Afridi Abdul Razzaq Steve Waugh Jacques Kallis Ravindra Jadeja Shane Watson Lance Klusener Carl Hooper Ravi Shastri Chris Harris Andrew Symonds Hansie Cronje Ryan ten Doeschate Scott Styris

 

[smash84]

Bat

Sanath Jayasuriya

Shane Watson

Kapil Dev

Carl Hooper

Lance Klusener

Jacques Kallis

Shakib Al-Hasan

Andrew Symonds

Steve Waugh

Chris Cairns

Shaun Pollock

Imran Khan

Hansie Cronje

Ryan ten Doeschate

Ian Botham

Shahid Afridi

Andrew Flintoff

Scott Styris

Chris Harris

Ravindra Jadeja

Richard Hadlee

Abdul Razzaq

Ian Harvey

Heath Streak

Ravi Shastri Bowl: Richard Hadlee Imran Khan Kapil Dev Chris Cairns Heath Streak Andrew Flintoff Shaun Pollock Ian Botham Ian Harvey Shakib Al-Hasan Sanath Jayasuriya Shahid Afridi Abdul Razzaq Steve Waugh Jacques Kallis Ravindra Jadeja Shane Watson Lance Klusener Carl Hooper Ravi Shastri Chris Harris Andrew Symonds Hansie Cronje Ryan ten Doeschate Scott Styris

your batting list looks interesting. Shakib a better bat than Steve Waugh? And Shuan Pollock better than Imran? And Klusener and Hooper higher than Kallis?