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    Pity how there are no overweight, donut eating, coca cola drinking Americans in the US cricket team. They seem to be another talented side (relative to the developing nations) mainly consisting of expatriate Carribeans, Asians and Australians living in the US. The inclusion of a US cricket team isn't as great for cricket development as the ICC makes it out to be. It is obviously a dream come true for cricket loving expatriates in the US but I think interest among the locals is still minimal. ODI cricket is no where near as commercialised as their ridiculous television sports (i.e. NFL, NBA etc.).
    Would it be great to see the stereotypical American playing for the US cricket team?, not likely unless there are big bucks to be made!
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    Hi SLPrince,

    Colombo is very hot atm. Hotter than usual for April. Where are u from in SL ?

    SL will have to play exceedingly well to beat England.
    Where is that match scheduled to be , btw ? Is it Lords ?

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    LankanPrince:
    I agree when you say Cricket may never catch up to the level of Baseball or Basketball in the USA. Cricket is a lovable game, indeed, and the reason many developing nations suddenly take a love to it is they have no other deep-rooted sport. Such is the case with Kenya, I would think. The USA, on the other hand, is deep-rooted in a tradition of Baseball, Football, and Basketball and has been for the past several decades, and no game, no matter how lovable is going to take that away. Look at Soccer, for example, it is the life and blood to millions around the world, yet it barely warrants a following in the US at the level of BBF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LankanPrince
    Pity how there are no overweight, donut eating, coca cola drinking Americans in the US cricket team. They seem to be another talented side (relative to the developing nations) mainly consisting of expatriate Carribeans, Asians and Australians living in the US. The inclusion of a US cricket team isn't as great for cricket development as the ICC makes it out to be. It is obviously a dream come true for cricket loving expatriates in the US but I think interest among the locals is still minimal. ODI cricket is no where near as commercialised as their ridiculous television sports (i.e. NFL, NBA etc.).
    Would it be great to see the stereotypical American playing for the US cricket team?, not likely unless there are big bucks to be made!
    But the US is a country of Immigrants, so what would be a true US team. Natives!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehwag309
    But the US is a country of Immigrants, so what would be a true US team. Natives!
    That is very true, but how come the England cricket team isn't more balanced. There is a lot of talented Asian and Black players in the UK county cricket scene but when they do get picked they get only a couple of matches. The England selectors should persevere with these players more like they have done with Steve Harmison and Andrew Flintoff, both who had disappointing starts to their international career but have gradually made their mark. If the selectors fail to persevere with a base of Asian and Black players, the England team will not realise the talent of players such as Vikram Solanki, Kabir Ali and Alex Tudor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    Purely and simply that they (Australia) are unquestionably the best - and anyone worth their salt, given the choice, would take the option of measuring themselves against the cream.
    That, and America's mentality to sport is that they are the best at everything...

    I can't wait to see the Yanks get killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot
    That, and America's mentality to sport is that they are the best at everything...

    I can't wait to see the Yanks get killed.
    Not only is that wrong, but it comes off as extremely ignorant.

    Sure the 'yanks' will get killed, but don't go about propogating something that isn't true. America is the best at a lot of things, undoubtedly, but they don't think they're the best at everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LankanPrince
    That is very true, but how come the England cricket team isn't more balanced. There is a lot of talented Asian and Black players in the UK county cricket scene but when they do get picked they get only a couple of matches. The England selectors should persevere with these players more like they have done with Steve Harmison and Andrew Flintoff, both who had disappointing starts to their international career but have gradually made their mark. If the selectors fail to persevere with a base of Asian and Black players, the England team will not realise the talent of players such as Vikram Solanki, Kabir Ali and Alex Tudor.
    All due respect, but that's a load of rubbish.

    Tudor's injury record makes Darren Anderton's look unblemished and had far more chances than he should have had. Solanki scares me every time he bats and I think he's had more than enough to prove he's not up to it. Kabir just did not look up to it on debut - Vaughan was reluctant to give him the ball, and that says a lot.

    The fact that Shaftab Khalid, Kadeer Ali and Bilal Shafayat didn't get launched off the nearest jetty into the Indian ocean during the England A tour also suggests that your statement is utterly baseless
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    I think you guys are underrating sri lanka...And dare i say overrating England. Sri Lanka are very unpredictable, but generally do well in these tournaments, and definately have the players to go all the way. A couple of people have said pretty confidently that england will go through, but not the Lanks. England have been pretty crap for a few years, but are finally on the up. I dont think they are good enough to beat sri lanka, even though sri lankas form has not been great lately. As for the rest of the competition, One - day cricket is anyones game. Australia and india are deserved favorites, but i think its pretty open. Every team in this comp (with the exceptions of the minnows) and perhaps W.I have a chance of winning this comp, as a majority of the teams have been very unbalanced lately in teams and performance. Still, ill be backing the Aussies

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    The US may never adopt cricket as many argue (read somwhere ) that cricket doesn't offer the same physical exercise that their sport has.

    Although I feel competiton between countries is more exciting than just "Yanks V/S Mets", or "bugs bunny v/s daffodils or something".

    I mean look at American Football, its like WWF with a ball which looks like baked bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehwag309
    The US may never adopt cricket as many argue (read somwhere ) that cricket doesn't offer the same physical exercise that their sport has.

    Although I feel competiton between countries is more exciting than just "Yanks V/S Mets", or "bugs bunny v/s daffodils or something".

    I mean look at American Football, its like WWF with a ball which looks like baked bread.
    My NRI firends in the US also believe that cricket is not a team game (They hate cricket). They just compare it with basketball and baseball.

    It'll be very difficult for cricket in the US because they already have NBA, baseball, American Football etc... I don't think any country avidly follows more than 3 sports.
    You talking to IR?

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    The pace of cricket is probably too slow for American tastes, matches going for hours, or days doesn't seem too suited for the USA.

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    ..Thus the 20/20, which might please the Americans..if we add sledging+bat fighting, it will surely be a hit

    .........and then in few years, you will see movies where a thief enters someones house, the husband picks up a cricket bat to go after him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sehwag309
    ..Thus the 20/20, which might please the Americans..if we add sledging+bat fighting, it will surely be a hit
    Well, Glenn McGrath IS being coached by Dennis Lillee, so we're nearly there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THE G-TRAIN
    I think you guys are underrating sri lanka...And dare i say overrating England. Sri Lanka are very unpredictable, but generally do well in these tournaments, and definately have the players to go all the way. A couple of people have said pretty confidently that england will go through, but not the Lanks. England have been pretty crap for a few years, but are finally on the up. I dont think they are good enough to beat sri lanka, even though sri lankas form has not been great lately. As for the rest of the competition, One - day cricket is anyones game. Australia and india are deserved favorites, but i think its pretty open. Every team in this comp (with the exceptions of the minnows) and perhaps W.I have a chance of winning this comp, as a majority of the teams have been very unbalanced lately in teams and performance. Still, ill be backing the Aussies
    Were this tournament in Sri Lanka, I wouldn't give us much of a chance of progress. However, it's in England, and the SL seam attack is on the not-too-great side of less-than-average - so I can only see 30 overs of ineffectual bowling from the Sri Lankans leading to an England win.

    The 2002 NW Series - with a stronger SL side than today, arguably, was a very difficult one for the Sri Lankans.

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