Which of these 90s English no rounders was your favourite?

[flibbertyjibber]

Didn't he have a wack on the head, after which he was a much better bowler?

And it helped that when he came back into the side he wasn't batting in the top 6, which had been one of Illingworth's sillier calls.

He collapsed in the street twice and the doctors never found anything wrong with him. After that he started playing every match like it could be his last. Seemed to improve too.

Loved his batting on the Sri Lanka tour, played so well.

 

[Kirkut]

Chris Lewis could bowl quick on occasions plus a handy batsman down the order.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Yeah, but at least we haven't quite seen the whole team managing one.

Fair call, ftr though I didn't mean that post in the way I think you took it. I was commenting on the temerity of an English fan deciding that the "3 best sub 50 innings of all time" just happened to be by Englishmen (presumably because they're the ones he's paid attention to).

I was in no way trying to have a "dig" at English cricket in any way by suggesting that their batsmen are better at making low scores because they aren't good or anything along those lines. Just wanted you to know that.

That kind of low-brow banter is not my style

 

[91Jmay]

I thought Alex Tudor had a bucket load of talent and could have been a good bowling all rounder.

 

[wpdavid]

Fair call, ftr though I didn't mean that post in the way I think you took it. I was commenting on the temerity of an English fan deciding that the "3 best sub 50 innings of all time" just happened to be by Englishmen (presumably because they're the ones he's paid attention to).

I was in no way trying to have a "dig" at English cricket in any way by suggesting that their batsmen are better at making low scores because they aren't good or anything along those lines. Just wanted you to know that.

That kind of low-brow banter is not my style

Thanks mate. I hadn't really taken offence, just messing around.

And I'd better mention this scorecard, before someone else does.

3rd Test, England tour of West Indies at Port of Spain, Mar 25-30, 1994 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo

 

[ImpatientLime]

Thanks mate. I hadn't really taken offence, just messing around.

And I'd better mention this scorecard, before someone else does.

3rd Test, England tour of West Indies at Port of Spain, Mar 25-30, 1994 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo

this innings has a strong claim on the greatest ever team effort under 50 in a test match.

 

[wpdavid]

this innings has a strong claim on the greatest ever team effort under 50 in a test match.

Now there's a challenge .....

There must be a scorecard from one of those Australian sticky wickets in the 1930's or 1950's

 

[fredfertang]

Chris Lewis could bowl quick on occasions plus a handy batsman down the order.

Could certainly produce a snorter

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Thanks mate. I hadn't really taken offence, just messing around.

And I'd better mention this scorecard, before someone else does.

3rd Test, England tour of West Indies at Port of Spain, Mar 25-30, 1994 | Match Summary | ESPNCricinfo

That Ramprakash run out is hilarious looking back, at the time not so much.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Chris Lewis was a household name all through my childhood because of Lara's 375


He even made it into a primary school Language Arts textbook.

 

[fredfertang]

Despite my rather crass comment I should probably admit to having spoken to Chris Lewis once - genuinely nice guy

 

[BoyBrumby]

Despite my rather crass comment I should probably admit to having spoken to Chris Lewis once - genuinely nice guy

Mate's rates?!

I think it does show quite how desperate we were for the next Beefy that some of these fellows seemed to attract the "all-rounder" designation. I think Goughie was even mentioned as such when he first burst onto the test scene and scored a couple of breezy 50s.

Daffy, Gough & Dom Cork were all pretty much proper bowlers who could sometimes score down the order. All have inferior test batting records to Broad jr who has rarely, if ever, been called an all-rounder. Certainly not for several years.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Yeah but when you had the likes of Fraser, Malcolm and Tufnell in the side whoever could hold a bat became an allrounder in comparison.

 

[jimmy101]

I would love to live in an alternate world where Chris Lewis was a successful Test all-rounder.

Funny thing is, whilst England had a plethora of all-rounders in the mid to late 90's, Australia had almost none.

Off the top of my head I can think of Moody, Julian & Harvey (plus Bevan, sort of). Probably someone obvious I'm missing here.

Does anyone here rate, say, Cork or White, higher than said Aussie all-rounders?

 

[Howe_zat]

I would like Cork ahead of any of those players, though just as a Test bowler, rather than an ODI #7 for example which is where Harvey found a niche.

I wouldn't say Australia 'had no all rounders', I'm sure they had plenty of allrounders of the quality offered by those in the poll, but didn't feel the need to play them. Steve Waugh could bowl, so why do need to find a bloke who could bowl and bat at six? McDermott and Warne go alright at 8/9, so you don't need to find a bowling allrounder to stop the tail going to ****. Had Craig White stayed in Australia he'd probably have struggled to get a game.

 

[Camo999]

I once saw Craig White play a match for Vic. He bowled off-spin. Don't think he ever played again. I reckon if Cork is an all-rounder then Reiffel is too.

Harvey, Moody, Shaun Young, Shane Lee, Dan Marsh were at least as good as most of these guys. They were around, just not in danger of regular test selection with only Moody playing as a specialist top order bat before the emergence of Hayden, Langer, Slater, Elliott, Law, Martyn etc and Young got one game in an injury emergency.

Still devastated Harvs didn't get a test cap the time they went for Scott Muller.

 

[mr_mister]

Paul Reiffel often forgotten. He averaged 26 with the bat and ball at test level with a decent sample size

 

[BoyBrumby]

Think if Rieffel had been a pom he'd have played at least twice the tests he did. His bowling looked made for English conditions.

Always came across as a total sweetheart too.

 

[Kirkut]

Chris Lewis was a household name all through my childhood because of Lara's 375


He even made it into a primary school Language Arts textbook.

He's got half centuries against quality attacks of West Indies and Pakistan, also a brilliant century on a turning Chennai wicket. Not a bad batsman at all.

 

[Red]

I would love to live in an alternate world where Chris Lewis was a successful Test all-rounder.

Funny thing is, whilst England had a plethora of all-rounders in the mid to late 90's, Australia had almost none.

Off the top of my head I can think of Moody, Julian & Harvey (plus Bevan, sort of). Probably someone obvious I'm missing here.

Does anyone here rate, say, Cork or White, higher than said Aussie all-rounders?

We had both the Waughs who could bowl as required.