***Official*** West Indies Tour of the UK 2017

[SillyCowCorner1]

Dickson putting on a show here on 141 as Kent is 7 away from Windies' total

 

[Howe_zat]

Hey remember when Daniel Bell-Drummond was a thing?

 

[grecian]

Hey remember when Daniel Bell-Drummond was a thing?

Real shame, but he always seems to go two-stepd forward, three back.

Look it's knee-jerk and pathetic, but I won't hate it when they call Hales up to bat at 5 for England, in the end he's had a decent few years in first-class, not so much this one as he's hardly played, wasn't totally out of his debt when he played Tests (like some), and **** it who else is there?

There was talk last time he should bat middle-order, so give him a go in the never-ending carousel of awful batsmen.

 

[mr_mister]

yeah, Hales string of unconverted fifties is looking pretty damn good in retrospect. Definitely a better prospect than Jennings and Malan

 

[Spark]

How come the Aussie v Bangladesh thread got a sticky and not this one?

I believe west indies matches start before Aussies.

For some reason I didn't see it. I guess my eyes were looking only for the "official" and skimmed over the rest.

 

[vogue]

For some reason I didn't see it. I guess my eyes were looking only for the "official" and skimmed over the rest.

Thank you for the sticky.

 

[Howe_zat]

Real shame, but he always seems to go two-stepd forward, three back.

Look it's knee-jerk and pathetic, but I won't hate it when they call Hales up to bat at 5 for England, in the end he's had a decent few years in first-class, not so much this one as he's hardly played, wasn't totally out of his debt when he played Tests (like some), and **** it who else is there?

There was talk last time he should bat middle-order, so give him a go in the never-ending carousel of awful batsmen.

I'm certainly warming to it, the one area where England look to have strong batting (and batting depth) is the ODI side. I'd rather look at that team for batsmen then continuing to scrape county cricket for blokes averaging in the mid 30s with a few runs this season.

 

[grecian]

I'm certainly warming to it, the one area where England look to have strong batting (and batting depth) is the ODI side. I'd rather look at that team for batsmen then continuing to scrape county cricket for blokes averaging in the mid 30s with a few runs this season.

Yeah, since my post at 2pm, I've probably changed stoneman out for Hameed, and Hales in for Wells. Lucky I don't make decisions.

 

[ImpatientLime]

i have no issues with.....

cook
hameed
westley
root
hales
stokes
barstow
the worlds premium non chucking spinning all rounder
trj/woakes
broad
anderson

 

[Spark]

Real shame, but he always seems to go two-stepd forward, three back.

Look it's knee-jerk and pathetic, but I won't hate it when they call Hales up to bat at 5 for England, in the end he's had a decent few years in first-class, not so much this one as he's hardly played, wasn't totally out of his debt when he played Tests (like some), and **** it who else is there?

There was talk last time he should bat middle-order, so give him a go in the never-ending carousel of awful batsmen.

At a basic level he simply looks much, much better at batting—like, at the physical task of hitting a cricket ball with a stick of wood—than all his competitors (that have already played Tests, that is. Maybe Hameed is the exception to that), and with the exception of Ballance it's not like the rest of them look like they have amazing temperaments (ofc, even with Ballance, as other batsmen in world cricket have shown, the ability to correct technical flaws when they're exposed at Test level is a fairly important part of "temperament") so I really don't see the point of not picking him other than dumb antiquated ideas about what Test players "should" look like.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

For some reason I didn't see it. I guess my eyes were looking only for the "official" and skimmed over the rest.

My bad then, I forgot to put that word in

 

[MW1304]

Wonder if there's a chance they'll bring Ballance back at 3 (if fit) and move Westley to open.

 

[grecian]

At a basic level he simply looks much, much better at batting—like, at the physical task of hitting a cricket ball with a stick of wood—than all his competitors (that have already played Tests, that is. Maybe Hameed is the exception to that), and with the exception of Ballance it's not like the rest of them look like they have amazing temperaments (ofc, even with Ballance, as other batsmen in world cricket have shown, the ability to correct technical flaws when they're exposed at Test level is a fairly important part of "temperament") so I really don't see the point of not picking him other than dumb antiquated ideas about what Test players "should" look like.

I certainly couldn't give a monkeys about that, but after advocating him, I think people are forgetting that he really was quite poor against Pakistan, which is not about any pristine ideals, but that he didn't look good enough. In the end he seems to lose that ability of actually hitting the ball and became a stodgy mess.

but, as said before we haven't much other choice and middle-order would look to be a more natural fit. Also he'll never be in better form.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Hey remember when Daniel Bell-Drummond was a thing?

Well the Kent fans flooded the internet early season saying it was a disgrace Northeast wasn't in the England side. Strange lot down there.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

i have no issues with.....

cook
hameed
westley
root
hales
stokes
barstow
the worlds premium non chucking spinning all rounder
trj/woakes
broad
anderson

Would say that is what they will go with. TRJ next week and give Woakes more time to get match sharp.

 

[grecian]

Would say that is what they will go with. TRJ next week and give Woakes more time to get match sharp.

Yes, I suppose there really is no point rushing Woakes back. If they want to rest Broad or Anderson, there's always Jake Ball too, who they obviously rate.

 

[Cabinet96]

Yeah Woakes has been out for two months and only had his first proper bowl yesterday.

 

[91Jmay]

They shouldn't be resting anyone in First test of series. Would bite them on the arse massively, we have like 6/7 good players.

 

[Howe_zat]

Not sure how I feel about resting players against the windies

Should check in with shivfan and see what he thinks

 

[Niall]

They shouldn't be resting anyone in First test of series. Would bite them on the arse massively, we have like 6/7 good players.

No harm when 2-0 to think about resting Broad or Anderson, but realistically they shouldn't be to stretched whatsoever against the West Indies. No need to rush back anyone either as the team picked for last few tests should handle business easily.