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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
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    I have not been here much lately so not sure how he is being rated lately. I remember couple of years back he and cook were universally rated as two best openers in the world and I would be very surprised if its a different case now

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    I think people like you and me have banged on the "Philander is underrated" drum so much that it isn't the case on here anymore. Certainly, I haven't noticed any of those typical lazy "he fakes injury on flat pitches" posts nowadays. Obviously, his own consistent high standards have taken care of those critics.
    Surely you realise they were jokes and no one legitimately thought he faked injuries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuhaib View Post
    I have not been here much lately so not sure how he is being rated lately. I remember couple of years back he and cook were universally rated as two best openers in the world and I would be very surprised if its a different case now
    I think people still rate him as one of the best openers in the world but to be honest the competition isn't exactly super-fierce. That he seriously struggles away from his favourite pitches has definitely been commented on at length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Surely you realise they were jokes
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Surely you realise they were jokes and no one legitimately thought he faked injuries
    Really?

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    They were definitely jokes but for a lot of them the intention was to call him an gtb imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Both pretty under appreciated. Jadeja's an incredible match winner at home, and Philander is flat out one of the best cricketers in the world... the greentop bully thing was never true and the tag only highlighted how most of this forum doesn't even watch test cricket when the so-called lesser nations are involved. Philander was excellent in a UAE tour back in 2014 and did a great job in SL as well even though his figures didn't reflect it. It's amazing how that one poor performance in Australia back in 2012 coloured so many people's opinions when the pitches in that series were some of the flattest imaginable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
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    No that's when excuses come out about how 50s are important too. He does not get even half the rebuke that Philander, Ashwin, Jadeja, Mahela have received for going AWOL and Philander doesn't even go AWOL on away tours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    No that's when excuses come out about how 50s are important too. He does not get even half the rebuke that Philander, Ashwin, Jadeja, Mahela have received for going AWOL and Philander doesn't even go AWOL on away tours
    Did you read the Aus in India thread? People were mad at him. Same when he was in SL.

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    No I wasn't on that thread but I'll take your word for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    No that's when excuses come out about how 50s are important too. He does not get even half the rebuke that Philander, Ashwin, Jadeja, Mahela have received for going AWOL and Philander doesn't even go AWOL on away tours
    That was only for England (where his record isn't even that bad). I don't think anyone has really defended his Asian record and he's copped heaps for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    No that's when excuses come out about how 50s are important too. He does not get even half the rebuke that Philander, Ashwin, Jadeja, Mahela have received for going AWOL and Philander doesn't even go AWOL on away tours
    Yes he does

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    Jadeja has a 6 fer in South Africa, FWIW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    There's no better way to get underrated in sport than to carry a bit of extra timber

    Not sure what Jadeja's excuse is though - but don't think the Mephistophelian appearance helps - someone buy him a razor
    He's a finger spinner and despite all the facial hair, he's going to be shown as impotent away from the SC over the course of his career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    No that's when excuses come out about how 50s are important too. He does not get even half the rebuke that Philander, Ashwin, Jadeja, Mahela have received for going AWOL and Philander doesn't even go AWOL on away tours
    Give up on this m8. It's tedious as hell.
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