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    Can't believe we got to, what, 30 posts without that joke being made ftr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    Nah that rule is there for a reason

    did you ever see a tour of India in the 90s?
    Yes.

    Umpiring is a full-time, well paid and reasonably competitive profession now. If you're going to be biased or in any way incompetent at your job, you won't have one any more. Should be effective enough in weeding out the cheats.

    I know a couple of umpires who have come up in the ranks in NZ and are now in the international arena. I doubt those blokes even like our players after years on the circuit But seriously, they have zero affinity to their national side. They just want to be successful at their job. They see batsmen with black helmets, not NZC logos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    Yes.

    Umpiring is a full-time, well paid and reasonably competitive profession now. If you're going to be biased or in any way incompetent at your job, you won't have one any more. Should be effective enough in weeding out the cheats.

    I know a couple of umpires who have come up in the ranks in NZ and are now in the international arena. I doubt those blokes even like our players after years on the circuit But seriously, they have zero affinity to their national side. They just want to be successful at their job. They see batsmen with black helmets, not NZC logos.
    While you're right, the rule is still necessary.

    The problem imo hasn't ever been that home umpires will necessarily favour the home team, it's the impression that they favour one team. Say they get a big decision wrong purely due to incompetence and it goes in favour of his nation's team, there'll inevitably be loads of talk about favouritism. There's no way around it. The topic will always come up. This is really damaging because : a) discussions like that can get very unsavoury and b) it diverts attention away from the actual problem (ie) the competence of the officiating.

    It can sometimes be annoying, because it can lead to situations where the clear best man for the job doesn't get to officiate the game. eg: Taufel not being allowed to stand as umpire for the 2007 WC final and Bucknor standing in for him, which in turn led to him and Dar making a complete hash of things at the end of the match. But it's still something that needs to be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    While you're right, the rule is still necessary.

    The problem imo hasn't ever been that home umpires will necessarily favour the home team, it's the impression that they favour one team. Say they get a big decision wrong purely due to incompetence and it goes in favour of his nation's team, there'll inevitably be loads of talk about favouritism. There's no way around it. The topic will always come up. This is really damaging because : a) discussions like that can get very unsavoury and b) it diverts attention away from the actual problem (ie) the competence of the officiating.

    It can sometimes be annoying, because it can lead to situations where the clear best man for the job doesn't get to officiate the game. eg: Taufel not being allowed to stand as umpire for the 2007 WC final and Bucknor standing in for him, which in turn led to him and Dar making a complete hash of things at the end of the match. But it's still something that needs to be there.
    You also have the potential situation arising of a local umpire trying too hard to make sure it doesn't look like he's favouring the home team and going the other way

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    While you're right, the rule is still necessary.

    The problem imo hasn't ever been that home umpires will necessarily favour the home team, it's the impression that they favour one team. Say they get a big decision wrong purely due to incompetence and it goes in favour of his nation's team, there'll inevitably be loads of talk about favouritism. There's no way around it. The topic will always come up. This is really damaging because : a) discussions like that can get very unsavoury and b) it diverts attention away from the actual problem (ie) the competence of the officiating.

    It can sometimes be annoying, because it can lead to situations where the clear best man for the job doesn't get to officiate the game. eg: Taufel not being allowed to stand as umpire for the 2007 WC final and Bucknor standing in for him, which in turn led to him and Dar making a complete hash of things at the end of the match. But it's still something that needs to be there.
    So basically what this tells us is that cricket fans and pundits are ****s?...........Sounds about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    While you're right, the rule is still necessary.

    The problem imo hasn't ever been that home umpires will necessarily favour the home team, it's the impression that they favour one team. Say they get a big decision wrong purely due to incompetence and it goes in favour of his nation's team, there'll inevitably be loads of talk about favouritism. There's no way around it. The topic will always come up. This is really damaging because : a) discussions like that can get very unsavoury and b) it diverts attention away from the actual problem (ie) the competence of the officiating.
    Excellent post. Below two posts highlight why neutral umpires were necessary. Imran Khan who was basically the chief architect of the movement in the late 80s just got sick of the "Pakistani umpires cheat, but English umpires make mistakes". Ideally we should have at least 7-8 really competent umpires so even if a Taufel misses out, we have one from a country not playing the World Cup finals

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    Nah that rule is there for a reason

    did you ever see a tour of India in the 90s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Not zorax.
    If Zorax was an international umpire, he would barely manage to officiate in a handful of matches given his loose and flexible use of the pronoun "We"
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