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    Is test cricket about to enter a golden phase of captaincy?

    I was thinking about this the other day. It seems world cricket is being blessed with some fine captaincy candidates at the moment to make their teams more competitive.

    Kohli - Clearly has more to learn, but has shown tremendous ambition and confidence in himself and team

    Williamson - Seems patient, calm and thoughtful as a captain thus far

    Steve Smith - After a slump last year, has rebounded and shown strength and maturity to rally his team

    Du Plessis - A less conservative and more forward-thinking SA captain so far

    Sarfraz Ahmed - Early signs are good that he can shake Pakistan out of the defensive mindset that inhibited them of late

    Joe Root - Again early, but seems promising and capable

    Of course, it doesnt apply to all teams, but I cant remember a team when captaincy levels seems to be on the upswing. Any thoughts?

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    Fleming, Jayawardene, Smith, Ponting, Vaughan and Ganguly all overlapped in the 2000s.
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    was Jaywardne known as a good captain?
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    I was thinking the opposite
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    Its just that a lot of the sides have new captains now around the same 2 year window or so. So it "seems" exciting. We will wait and see, I suppose.
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    Don’t know why Ponting would be associated with any golden era of captaincy. Had great success in first few years but was largely because he was helming an all-time great side.

    Post 06/07 his personality and tactical weaknesses became exposed constantly; he was especially poor in handling spin post-Warne.

    Was clearly respected by his teammates throughout but overall, thought Taylor & Clarke were better Test captains of Oz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quincywagstaff View Post
    Don’t know why Ponting would be associated with any golden era of captaincy. Had great success in first few years but was largely because he was helming an all-time great side.

    Post 06/07 his personality and tactical weaknesses became exposed constantly; he was especially poor in handling spin post-Warne.

    Was clearly respected by his teammates throughout but overall, thought Taylor & Clarke were better Test captains of Oz.
    I've never understood these criticisms of Ponting's captaincy. They don't see to based on any facts but more from people disliking him personally for their own reasons.

    He was an excellent captain, if anything a little more defensive than Waugh & Clarke but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think people just remember him as being emotional and angry at times. Saying he had any specific significant "tactical weaknesses" is absurd and his handling of spin was fine. Just all the spinners post-Warne were **** in comparison and it's not his fault the selectors changed them every series.

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    He bowled part timers at a crucial phase of a test match (and series) away from home to ensure he does not get banned. I dunno where you are from but that is the very definition of selfish, defensive and stupid captaincy all at the same time. And this from a guy who called Lara "selfish" for his 400.

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    Lol yep. The nagpur test. He basically handed us the series on a plate.

    Mediocre tactical captain in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    was Jaywardne known as a good captain?
    Yep. He was excellent.
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    Ricky Ponting ensuring he didn't get banned was controversial yes but really he was the country's best bat so its pretty crucial he stays in the side


    not saying that it wasnt selfish from his perspective mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    He bowled part timers at a crucial phase of a test match (and series) away from home to ensure he does not get banned. I dunno where you are from but that is the very definition of selfish, defensive and stupid captaincy all at the same time. And this from a guy who called Lara "selfish" for his 400.
    Are we gonna pretend like Lara's 400 wasn't the most selfish act in cricket history?

    Again, purely tactically speaking, having contemporaries like Ganguly and Alistair "deep point" Cook made him look like tactical genius
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    Lol yep. The nagpur test. He basically handed us the series on a plate.
    When was this? I can only find a test in 2008 where part-timers didn't really bowl and India won easily, and one in 2004 that Australia won easily and Ponting wasn't even playing

    edit: not saying I don't believe you just interested in seeing the context
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    I think Ponting being seen as a poor captain is a testament to the quality of the others at the time. Ponting was a very competent captain.

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