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    Test Top 5s (as of now)

    Not seen a thread like this, might be fun to track periodically how our lists change:

    Batsmen:
    1) Steve Smith
    2) Kane Williamson
    3) Joe Root
    4) Virat Kohli
    5) Azhar Ali

    HM: De Kock, Pujara, Ross Taylor, Dave Warner

    Pace bowlers:
    1) Dale Steyn
    2) Mitchell Starc
    3) KG Rabada
    4) Josh Hazelwood
    5) Stuart Broad

    HM: Vernon Philander, Trent Boult

    Spin bowlers:
    1) R Ashwin
    2) Rangana Herath
    3) Yasir Shah
    4) Nathan Lyon
    5) Ravi Jadeja

    All rounders:
    1) Ben Stokes
    2) Shakib Al Hasan
    3) Angelo Mathews
    4) R Ashwin
    5) Moeen Ali

    Assorted comments, Spinners first 3 picked themselves but after that I'd say there is a real paucity of quality options going around. Ali might be contentious to some at 5 on the batsmen slot but I rate him very highly and edges out Warner/Taylor et al because he has scored runs in a good variety of conditions. I expect De Kock to rapidly move up the list though, potentially going as far as 1#. Pace bowlers there to me a clear and obvious top 3, with 4-8 or so being a real logjam of good bowlers. All rounders is hard as basically all of them are primary skilled in one discipline with a bolt on extra.
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    Shakid got to be in the spinners top 5. Always seems to pick up 2/3 for very few runs. And has done it consistently for a number of years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Flint View Post
    Shakid got to be in the spinners top 5. Always seems to pick up 2/3 for very few runs. And has done it consistently for a number of years
    Yeah, I will make an all rounders top 5 thinking about it. He could probably be in over Lyon/Jadeja but I don't feel strongly about it either way.

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    I dont think you can include Steyn at the moment, we don't even know if/when he will come back for certain. Philander probably deserves to be top 5. And Morkel deserves an HM with the way he has bowled recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    I dont think you can include Steyn at the moment, we don't even know if/when he will come back for certain. Philander probably deserves to be top 5. And Morkel deserves an HM with the way he has bowled recently.
    Yeah, I just can't not have Steyn 1# until he has retired. Vern was very close, him and Broad was virtually a tie but I reckoned over 18 month period (roughly my window) Broad had stayed a bit fitter basically. Morkel was at the back end of the mentioned logjam, would have had a few before him.

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    - Azhar Ali definitely above Kohli for me.
    - Starc seems overrated there.
    - Jadeja > Shakib > Lyon
    - All rounders are --> Stokes, Shakib, Matthews, Moeen, Ashwin
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    How about a top 5 pure a keepers all FC cricket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.ag View Post
    - Azhar Ali definitely above Kohli for me.
    - Starc seems overrated there.
    - Jadeja > Shakib > Lyon
    - All rounders are --> Stokes, Shakib, Matthews, Moeen, Ashwin
    Yeah, Starc maybe slightly high. Lyon has done more away from home than Jadeja at this point, still not sure I'd really pick Jadeja as a lone spinner anywhere outside of Asia where as I certainly would with Lyon. It's fair call that he is far better than Lyon in spinning conditions though, again I don't feel strongly about that though and could be wrong. Mathews is a good call as an allrounder, he will go straight into edited list.

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    what sort of a bracket is your "now"? Last 12 months?
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    what sort of a bracket is your "now"? Last 12 months?
    When I asked this, for some reason the below post had not loaded. Sorry JMay..

    Quote Originally Posted by 91Jmay View Post
    Yeah, I just can't not have Steyn 1# until he has retired. Vern was very close, him and Broad was virtually a tie but I reckoned over 18 month period (roughly my window) Broad had stayed a bit fitter basically. Morkel was at the back end of the mentioned logjam, would have had a few before him.

    But even if you take 18 months, I dont think Steyn will be ahead by that much.

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    Yeah I should have written it in the original post, fair call. I am probably being disingenuous including him at 1# given my own criteria but he is top 5 all time for me so I still can't comfortably move him yet.

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    yeah.. its tough to be objective with ATGs. I know the feeling. I never had Lara as anything less than #1 for as long as he was playing. Even when he obviously was not #1.

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    I'll put Morris as 5th all rounder. Can bowl and bat. The pace he came up with recently in that ODI was quite some thing. Don't like Morris but he has a fair bit of talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pratters View Post
    I'll put Morris as 5th all rounder. Can bowl and bat. The pace he came up with recently in that ODI was quite some thing. Don't like Morris but he has a fair bit of talent.
    He's not in his country's first XI.

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    Root is so much better than Williamson, not sure on what metric you can put him ahead.
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