Test Top 5s (as of now)

[hendrix]

Kohli himself agrees with this btw

Yeah but he also thinks Rohit Sharma has more talent than him and KW probably thinks that's he's just been arbitrarily picked to sleep-learn cricket and as soon as it's over he can resume monitoring the production of soma and ensuring total conformity.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Smith is a tier above the rest if we're talking strictly test cricket

 

[FBU]

I don't think it's controversial to say, as of right now, Broad is the more well-rounded bowler. Jimmy still has the better career, although that could change, but I for one would say Broad is better. It's still close tbf.

HowSTAT! Top Ten (Test)

 

[Bijed]

Woah Khawaja

 

[morgieb]

Woah Khawaja

Helps he's barely played away from roads.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Helps he's barely played away from roads.

also helps that selectors didn't play him in India where he almost certainly would have been rubbish

Some of his best performances were not on roads though, eg. Adelaide v SA, a couple innings in NZ IIRC

He should absolutely be one of the first picked for Tests in Australia

 

[MW1304]

HowSTAT! Top Ten (Test)

It would be really nice if someone could send a reasoned response my way instead of just contextless stats. It isn't controversial to say you think Jimmy is better either, since as I've now said three times I have them very close, but I've explained why I think Broad is a little more rounded as a bowler right now.

 

[morgieb]

also helps that selectors didn't play him in India where he almost certainly would have been rubbish

Some of his best performances were not on roads though, eg. Adelaide v SA, a couple innings in NZ IIRC

He should absolutely be one of the first picked for Tests in Australia

Yeah that Adelaide innings was gun. Perhaps turners is more accurate in this point, he plays in India his average looks much worse.

I'd be keen to see him in South Africa/England.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Helps he's barely played away from roads.

Got a few runs against a top class South Africa attack last summer, even if they were roads.

 

[91Jmay]

Khawaja is a good player but has a glaring weakness that the top players in the world generally don't, would need a big improvement against spin to crack top 5 or even top 10 lists imo.

 

[Burner]

Pretty evident in this thread that Warner has gone quite a few notches below in everyone's estimation's after his stinker series in India, SL etc. Rightly so too. If you'd asked me a year ago I'd have said that he would go big at least once in any of those series'. I actually would not have minded if he was getting good balls right up front, but he just didn't look like scoring any runs even after being dropped a couple of times.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Not just India and Sri Lanka, guy just has an awful away record (other than South Africa)

No centuries in England, West Indies, New Zealand, India, Sri Lanka.

 

[mr_mister]

No centuries in England is a misleading stat. Got 5 fifties last ashes, 4 of them above 75


Wasn't going big but he was scoring plenty of runs

 

[TheJediBrah]

Warner pretty much just sucks in Asia

afaik he's barely played in NZ and WI

edit: Played 3 innings total in NZ, 5 Tests in WI for a low average but iirc they were very slow wickets, with quite a bit of turn and pretty low-scoring matches in general. Especially 2 Tests in the 2015 tour of WI were very Asia-like wickets, and not exactly David Warner's expertise

 

[Black_Warrior]

No centuries in England is a misleading stat. Got 5 fifties last ashes, 4 of them above 75


Wasn't going big but he was scoring plenty of runs

He has now played 2 Ashes series in England without a hundred. For an international batsman, that will be call out.

 

[mr_mister]

But his average is respectable and that should be noted in his defence

 

[TheJediBrah]

Yeah it's a very specific metric to judge someone on. Would it be better if he'd made a couple of 100s but averaged 10 runs lower? I doubt it.

 

[mr_mister]

That 100s column does mean an awful lot to most cricket pundits

 

[TheJediBrah]

funny how that is, how 100 means so much more than a 95 when looking back. Just in general.

 

[Spark]

Broad has been the better bowler for several years now as far as I'm concerned. Since 2013, IMO.