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    This thread could have been so much if Blocky had not died.
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    hey, i could have brought up the fact it was a dead rubber test but i didnt. smith failed in the live tests against Sri Lanka


    you forced my hand!
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    Some of Kohli's dimissals in the Australia tour were outrageously bad too

    That said, I agree with mr_mister that he'll probably be back in the runs soon enough. Just nowhere near the insane levels he was hitting for a while
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    anyway Smith's stats are insane so i can understand people having him as the clear cut number 1, but I look at all 4 of them as equal and would put equal faith in them all to score a ton on any random day in international cricket
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    Kane Williamson has to be the most clutched player in this bunch.

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    in the next 12 months we get to see root and kohli both attempt to put their previous horror tours behind them.

    should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    hey, i could have brought up the fact it was a dead rubber test but i didnt. smith failed in the live tests against Sri Lanka


    you forced my hand!
    Smith made a half century in the second innings of the first test in turning conditions while chasing and overall was the only bat to look competent from the Aust side in that series.

    Look my point is that you have to go back to 2013 to find the last series in which he averaged less than 40. Sri Lanka series was obviously a poor one from his standards but he still managed a 40 plus average which is quite different to being found out over and over again for five straight tests while averaging in single digits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImpatientLime View Post
    in the next 12 months we get to see root and kohli both attempt to put their previous horror tours behind them.

    should be fun.
    Root should do fine. Virat less so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gob View Post
    Smith made a half century in the second innings of the first test in turning conditions while chasing and overall was the only bat to look competent from the Aust side in that series.

    Look my point is that you have to go back to 2013 to find the last series in which he averaged less than 40. Sri Lanka series was obviously a poor one from his standards but he still managed a 40 plus average which is quite different to being found out over and over again for five straight tests while averaging in single digits.
    Barely says anything tbh.

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    yeah, i had actually forgotton about that 50 odd in the first test because it was overshadowed by SOK and Nevill's rearguard blockathon

    and I'd say Smarsh looked competent in the series, considering he tonned up in the only test he played


    anyway im just being devil's advocate now. your point is all well and good. statistically i cant argue Smith isnt above the rest. but he doesnt feel above them when i watch them all bat. not the way it must have looked when Bradman batted in a series next to Hammond and Hutton, and yes i know that is an extreme example.



    there's no real consensus on who was better out of sachin and lara is there? to me its the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_mister View Post
    yeah, i had actually forgotton about that 50 odd in the first test because it was overshadowed by SOK and Nevill's rearguard blockathon

    and I'd say Smarsh looked competent in the series, considering he tonned up in the only test he played


    anyway im just being devil's advocate now. your point is all well and good. statistically i cant argue Smith isnt above the rest. but he doesnt feel above them when i watch them all bat. not the way it must have looked when Bradman batted in a series next to Hammond and Hutton, and yes i know that is an extreme example.



    there's no real consensus on who was better out of sachin and lara is there? to me its the same thing.
    Sachin is better. Easy

    Yeah i agree its difficult to chose between them when you watch them bat just like its difficult to choose between Mark Waugh and Sachin Tendulkar when in full flight so you have to revert in to numbers and what they had achieved so far and once you look at them in meaningful ways, Smith always comes on top and Virat always the last.
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    Virat obviously below the other three. Needs a good series in England before he can claim to be in the same league.

    On a batting friendly pitch against a good attack, it's not weird to prefer Kohli above the others though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    This will totally be something that comes back to bite me in the ass, but I think we've got enough data now to say that Kohli is a tiny smidgeon below the other three. Smith, Root and Williamson, then Kohli just a tiny tier below them.

    Kohli himself agrees with this btw
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    Gob has got a crazy agenda against Kohli though.. Will be fun times in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    Gob has got a crazy agenda against Kohli though.. Will be fun times in the near future.
    No i really do not i mean i would not call him the GOAT one day batsman if had any.

    Stop insinuating that i have personal agendas against players that you like just because i happen to not to rate them as highly.
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