Am I the only one who is seeing Adam Gilchrist in Quinton de kock?

[Bahseph]

Having followed his career closely and watched every single Test he has been in, I don't think he is near the big four just yet.

Every one of those players can post a huge score and de Kock hasn't done that yet. That's not a slight on him though, the guy is super talented and never looks in much trouble, I just feel that batting at 7/8 most of the time really hinders that ability. He hasn't had the chance to really bat big.

His job is to rescue SA and bat with the tail, not be the set up guy at 3/4 who dictates the play. Every SA fan would want him up the order though because he could be that player for us now that Amla is on the wane. If or when he gets a chance to do so is another issue entirely. As a keeper batsman though, he is immense.

 

[TheJediBrah]

dono about Gilly but the bloke looks hell of lot like Elijah Wood aka Frodo Baggins,

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Heh I see what you did there

de Kock looks like Elijah Wood

 

[Black_Warrior]

If there's a more over-rated batsman around than de Kock I've yet to hear of him.

Nice to see Furball move on from AB to QDK to fill up his "Call one South African cricketer overrated" quota

 

[Daemon]

Nice to see Furball move on from AB to QDK to fill up his "Call one South African cricketer overrated" quota

One?

Furball is always at pains to remind everyone before a tournament that SA's ODI side is overrated, and they unfortunately always prove him right.

 

[Black_Warrior]

That's only in tournaments but the "AB is overrated" post it note is seen in pretty much every thread Furball visits. In Cricket Chat. Guess just like South Africa, he also moved on from AB.

 

[Top_Cat]

One thing which De Kock has going for him is he's not the nuggety fighter wk that South Africa usually produce. Genuine game-breaker. Fairly sure he's the first since re-admission who is being talked about in a serious way to bat top-6.

 

[Howe_zat]

One thing which De Kock has going for him is he's not the nuggety fighter wk that South Africa usually produce. Genuine game-breaker. Fairly sure he's the first since re-admission who is being talked about in a serious way to bat top-6.

I remember Heino Kuhn had a fair bit of hype a few years ago as a potential opener and keeper. Never actually happened like

 

[mr_mister]

One thing which De Kock has going for him is he's not the nuggety fighter wk that South Africa usually produce. Genuine game-breaker. Fairly sure he's the first since re-admission who is being talked about in a serious way to bat top-6.

I mean 90% of the tests played since readmission had only 2 different blokes who took the gloves. Your point is basically that Richardson and Boucher weren't big stroke makers right?

 

[morgieb]

One thing which De Kock has going for him is he's not the nuggety fighter wk that South Africa usually produce. Genuine game-breaker. Fairly sure he's the first since re-admission who is being talked about in a serious way to bat top-6.

IIRC they've only had two other wicket-keepers since readmission to play regularly in fairness.

 

[StephenZA]

I remember Heino Kuhn had a fair bit of hype a few years ago as a potential opener and keeper. Never actually happened like

Yeah, but he was still a nuggety player, as can be seen. So was Vilas really and Tsolekile. QDK is a natural stroke player and pretty decent wicket keeper, those don't come along very often hence all the comparisons to Gilchrist etc. Still a long way to go but he has all the determination and skill required to become an atg.

 

[Dendarii]

IIRC they've only had two other wicket-keepers since readmission to play regularly in fairness.

Three if you include De Villiers, who not have kept for the majority of his test career, but did have a run of matches behind the stumps for a while.

 

[Top_Cat]

I mean 90% of the tests played since readmission had only 2 different blokes who took the gloves. Your point is basically that Richardson and Boucher weren't big stroke makers right?

IIRC they've only had two other wicket-keepers since readmission to play regularly in fairness.

And, as StephenZA said, they and the others who played very few Tests were all of a similar mould, that they didn't get a regular go in the Test side is irrelevant and doesn't change my point.

 

[91Jmay]

He seems a good wicket keeper as well from what i've seen, despite when watching him bat you assume he is a batsmen who learnt to keep.

 

[Furball]

That's only in tournaments but the "AB is overrated" post it note is seen in pretty much every thread Furball visits. In Cricket Chat. Guess just like South Africa, he also moved on from AB.

Post evidence or gtfo.

 

[Furball]

Nice to see Furball move on from AB to QDK to fill up his "Call one South African cricketer overrated" quota

Also, how dare you suggest that my disdain for South African cricketers is limited to one at a time?


Apologise.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Yeah, but he was still a nuggety player, as can be seen. So was Vilas really and Tsolekile. QDK is a natural stroke player and pretty decent wicket keeper, those don't come along very often hence all the comparisons to Gilchrist etc. Still a long way to go but he has all the determination and skill required to become an atg.

Is there a likely scenario in the future especially with the top order batting so brittle and two tough series coming up, to promote him at 4 or 5 and pick another keeper?

 

[Furball]

The hype is greater than the reality.

People talk about the big 4 as if it should now be the big 5, he's nowhere near that good.

He has done absolutely nothing to merit comparison to either his contemporaries or to Gilchrist.

I take this back, this series has been very reminiscent of Gilchrist's 2005 series in England.

 

[91Jmay]

I take this back, this series has been very reminiscent of Gilchrist's 2005 series in England.

Furball loving this.

 

[mr_mister]

Dimuth Karunaratne is the newest member of the fab 5 anyway not QDK

 

[srbhkshk]

Pujara.