Anil Kumble steps down from the post of Head Coach

[Pratters]

I do know for any basic job you require experience. Has Kumble had any coaching experiences for a season with even a state side or any coaching training that suddenly he got the top coaching position in cricket in the country? Before you jump on me about this stance, look at my views from when he was appointed. I have always maintained this. Coaching is a specialised job, just like playing is.

 

[honestbharani]

Greg Chappell had coaching experience. I dont think Gary Kirsten had much coaching experience. Yet there was a huge difference in the results they got. I understand your point but it is not always a be all and end all, esp. when it comes to managing an international side.

 

[Pratters]

Greg Chappell's track record was bad though.

 

[Pratters]

Kirsten did do coaching with his cricket academy and I am sure it wasn't the kind of coaching people do in India where they make star appearances. That's not a lot of experience I agree but it was at least some thing. I would like better coaching in cricket where people are hired because they have some added skill sets.

 

[Pratters]

One way coaches could get to the top position is by coaching club and first class teams apart from learning the aspects of coaching. For international teams, dealing with A teams , taking up smaller jobs in the Indian team first would be better. A lot of time in soccer for example, the main manager is first used part time before getting the managerial position/or he has a lot of experience. Indian coach is a glamour job which attracts all and sundry. Last time there were 20-30 applicants for coach. The number of misses we have had in the past 15-16 years is too much. We can't afford it as a team.

 

[Pratters]

A lot of people have commented on social media that Kohli got Kumble out. Kumble's release on Twitter directly mentions Kohli too. I would be quite surprised if Kohli would stand against Kumble if he was the only one having an issue with Kumble. Is the Indian team a team which doesn't believe in discipline? Kohli has been quite a disciplined cricketer. I am not sure why people can't accept Kumble might have been a bad coach and so he was wanted out by the players. When the same thing happened with Kapil Dev, no one believed otherwise and they backed Tendulkar and the other players who didn't think Kapil was a good coach. Same was the situation when Chappell issues arose. If Kumble was any thing but a disaster, people wouldn't have wanted him out.

 

[StephenZA]

Greg Chappell had coaching experience. I dont think Gary Kirsten had much coaching experience. Yet there was a huge difference in the results they got. I understand your point but it is not always a be all and end all, esp. when it comes to managing an international side.

Kirsten did coach a bit in SA, he was actually assistant/batting coach to Domingo at the Warriors and also opened his own Cricketing academy between the end of his playing career and before India.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

Kohli said that its a regulation process that BCCI going through which was understandable because he didnt want to cause rift in the middle of a tournament but now Kohli needs to clear the air since Kumble openly admitted that their relationship was not working. He doesn't have to but still.

 

[harsh.ag]

Kohli said that its a regulation process that BCCI going through which was understandable because he didnt want to cause rift in the middle of a tournament but now Kohli needs to clear the air since Kumble openly admitted that their relationship was not working. He doesn't have to but still.

Tbf the administration did that before Kumble did.

 

[weldone]

Zero players from current team have thanked Kumble for being a good and helpful coach for them 12 hours after he is gone. Some times silence speaks louder than words HonestBharani.

Zero players wanting to be in the bad books of the captain makes a lot of sense, especially when the captain yields and exhibits a lot of power - and is known to be an illogical narcissist.

The message is loud and clear. You need to be a shameless boot-licker of the captain (like Ravi Shastri) to be a coach.

 

[honestbharani]

Its fascinating that weldone and Pratters are taking such extreme and opposing views based on just about the same amount of information the rest of us have deemed insufficient to take sides over.

 

[Pratters]

Its fascinating that weldone and Pratters are taking such extreme and opposing views based on just about the same amount of information the rest of us have deemed insufficient to take sides over.

If people don't have opinions, they are sheep.

 

[Pratters]

Zero players wanting to be in the bad books of the captain makes a lot of sense, especially when the captain yields and exhibits a lot of power - and is known to be an illogical narcissist.

The message is loud and clear. You need to be a shameless boot-licker of the captain (like Ravi Shastri) to be a coach.

Just like Chappell v Ganguly?

 

[Pratters]

I wonder how much of a power struggle this is. Gavaskar lashing out is interesting. Kohli and company aren't bowing to pressure of former players. Kohli wanted Shastri as coach. Got Kumble. He wasn't able to work and was opposed and removed. Kohli appeared in every press conference. He is the captain and he is taking a lot of control in his hands. It's not a bad thing. Ten committees try to take Indian cricket in ten directions. Ultimately the blame game ends with the captain. I like some one who leads from the front rather than one who doesn't.

 

[weldone]

Just like Chappell v Ganguly?

Will you please think before posting something?

How is that comparable? Ganguly was thrown out - so why would it be important for players to be in the good books of an ex-captain who has zero power?

 

[Pratters]

Will you please think before posting something?

How is that comparable? Ganguly was thrown out - so why would it be important for players to be in the good books of an ex-captain who has zero power?

Both cases have captain putting their foot down and saying enough is enough.

 

[weldone]

Both cases have captain putting their foot down and saying enough is enough.

Ganguly was told by the Coach that he shouldn't remain as Captain.

Kumble was told by the Captain that he shouldn't remain as Coach.

O yes, same thing isn't it?

 

[Pratters]

Yeah Ganguly got ****ed bad. Kohli, not yet.

 

[weldone]

Yeah Ganguly got ****ed bad. Kohli, not yet.

your point being..?

 

[Pratters]

Let's focus on this incident rather than confuse matters in pointless debate..