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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I feel like I could come up with 42 variations of the 5, 6, 7 that would be more successful and realistic then what you've named.

    Still, you would have got big money on predicting Renshaw Cartwright, Maddinson, Mennie would be Test Cricketers this time last year so I appreciate the call.
    Yeh hard to say really. TBH MMarsh will probably play instead of Cartright
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    Moeen since the last wc. 462 runs @ 21 @ 102.89 sr, 26 wickets @ 57.30, 5.24 econ

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    It's not good. Ok he's batting 7 so he's not going to have a great average. My problem with his batting is he can't play low risk cricket if it's required. The Pakistan game for instance when you need him to accumulate a solid 40 or 50 to rebuild the innings and he just hacks one to deep mid wicket. His bowling these days is just a defensive thing. It's fine (maybe even good) as a 6th option on a flat wicket, but when you need some wickets or playing on a more favourable wicket he doesn't offer anything.

    With all that being said I don't know if there is anyone better to do that specific role. Maybe they should consider replacing him, or slightly changing tactics/ batting order.

    Possibly a run outside the team to let him think about his cricket might be good, and give an opportunity to Dawson, Livingstone, or someone else. Or move Woakes to 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    Won the most recent one in England ftr.
    Yeah, I mean I'm no one-eyed bogan but they actually did win the last world cup in England so the point doesn't really stand up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    Won the most recent one in England ftr.
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    Yeah, I mean I'm no one-eyed bogan but they actually did win the last world cup in England so the point doesn't really stand up.
    The point stands up perfectly fine. The WC you speak of was 18 years ago FFS.......I even mentioned performances "over the last decade or so" in my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adders View Post
    The point stands up perfectly fine. The WC you speak of was 18 years ago FFS.......I even mentioned performances "over the last decade or so" in my post.
    His point was that "Australia win WC's for breakfast".....I don't see how Australia's recent form in England is relevant there.
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    Yeah if you can forget the fact that the WC 2019 is to be held in England, its not relevant at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    Yeah if you can forget the fact that the WC 2019 is to be held in England, its not relevant at all.
    And Monk's point was that despite poor recent form in the country, Australia tend to play much better at World Cup's.

    This is a weird argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    Yeah if you can forget the fact that the WC 2019 is to be held in England, its not relevant at all.
    Is it in June? I hope so! It never rains in June, it's that month where England turns into rainbows and clear skies and you don't want to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morgieb View Post
    And Monk's point was that despite poor recent form in the country, Australia tend to play much better at World Cup's.

    This is a weird argument.
    Agreed this is a weird argument......not that it is even an argument tbh.

    Look, to clarify, when Monk made what was I'm sure a tongue in cheek comment about Aus eating WC's for breakfast, my response was intended to indicate that they might just go hungry in 2019 as their record in Eng over the last decade has not been stella. Yes he was quite right that Australia's record in WC's is ridiculous, and yes Steve Waughs team of atg's won it in England in 1999 the last time the comp was held there...........does any of this mean they are walk up favourites for 2019? Not a ****ing chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theegyptian View Post
    Moeen since the last wc. 462 runs @ 21 @ 102.89 sr, 26 wickets @ 57.30, 5.24 econ

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    It's not good. Ok he's batting 7 so he's not going to have a great average. My problem with his batting is he can't play low risk cricket if it's required. The Pakistan game for instance when you need him to accumulate a solid 40 or 50 to rebuild the innings and he just hacks one to deep mid wicket. His bowling these days is just a defensive thing. It's fine (maybe even good) as a 6th option on a flat wicket, but when you need some wickets or playing on a more favourable wicket he doesn't offer anything.

    With all that being said I don't know if there is anyone better to do that specific role. Maybe they should consider replacing him, or slightly changing tactics/ batting order.

    Possibly a run outside the team to let him think about his cricket might be good, and give an opportunity to Dawson, Livingstone, or someone else. Or move Woakes to 7.
    Is Moeen's RPO that bad considering the scores that England have been making since the WC - they've generally been very high scoring games. And with Rashid taking the wicket-taking duties over that time, it's not disastrous.

    I know what you mean about the batting, but seven is a difficult spot. Think the fact that teams bounce him straight away and he doesn't ever control the hook/pull makes him vulnerable to soft outs.

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    Moeen was doing alright as an opener wasn't he?
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    Not good enough TBH.

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    Is anyone expecting any debutants selected for Australia between now and the World Cup? If so, who?Daniel Hughes and Darcy Short could be bolters maybe. Also any estalished guys likely to be dropped?

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    What I am going to find interesting is how Gibson phases out bowlers from the ODI line-up to make way for 2/3-in-1 cricketers.
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