What does AB De Villiers need achieve to surpass Viv Richards as the ODI's greatest

[Pratters]

Let's stick to AB v Richards. Every thread doesn't have to bring in Kohli and Dhoni ffs.

 

[Burgey]

Burgey being called a #KohliFan has elevated this thread to the upper stratosphere of awesome. Good job internet!

Yeah pretty funny. In a ball-aching kind of way.

 

[Burgey]

Burgey vs HashiraMadara is going to be fun
Battle of the AB fanboys

There's only TOTABFB mate.

 

[viriya]

IMO AB is the GOAT already, but I can see why people might still pick Viv or Sachin.

I think AB will retire with the undisputed GOAT record though.

 

[OverratedSanity]

There's only TOTABFB mate.

IMO AB is the GOAT already, but I can see why people might still pick Viv or Sachin.

I think AB will retire with the undisputed GOAT record though.

Kids and their acronyms these days. Can't keep up with this ****.

 

[Shri]

Top 5 ODI bats:

1. Tendulkar
2. Viv
3. Dhoni
4. Kohli
5. Bevan

Not included: Batsmen who have only pretty numbers and nothing else of note.

 

[honestbharani]

Let's stick to AB v Richards. Every thread doesn't have to bring in Kohli and Dhoni ffs.

Discussion on some of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time should.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Riight.. link me to these great hundreds he made batting at 9.

You know what I will do as a captain? I will whack a couple of sixes and remain not out to boost my average

And funny how "outside his continent" is suddenly a measure of batting greatness.. Of course you can't use outside his country

on two times India won the Test mace remind me how they won them... yeah, million home series

 

[HashiraMadara]

The majority of objective stats are in Ponting's favour though. There is noway AB will score 4000 more runs, I doubt he can make 30 more 50s and he will not win 3 world cups. Ponting did all that and more while being captain.

Like I said, the avg and SRs are inflated now. There was a time when an average of 40 in ODIs was like an avg of 50 in tests, that just isn't the case now. Yes Starc looks to be a terrific bowler but he is early in his career and miles off guys like Murali, Waqar, Wasim, Steyn and so on who Ponting had to contend with. Plus the quantity of top ODI bowlers was higher during Ponting's heyday than it is now.

So there are a lot of factors but I won't go over it anymore because it seems like I am belittling a player who is genuinely one of my favourites.

I would like to add Amla to the discussion. The rate at which he has scored runs is even superior to the likes of AB and the supposed modern star of Kohli (a way off being great imo). I think he will get to 7000 ODI runs 10 innings faster than Kohli and be the fastest overall across the board from 2000-7000. That is remarkable for a guy at one stage thought to be "too slow."

Translate: I just like Ponting more...

 

[honestbharani]

Top 5 ODI bats:

1. Tendulkar
2. Viv
3. Dhoni
4. Kohli
5. Bevan

Not included: Batsmen who have only pretty numbers and nothing else of note.

I would go

1. Viv
2. Sachin
3. AB
4. Bevan
5. Dhoni
6. Kohli
7. Ponting


And Kohli #6 because his career is still midway compared to the others in the list. I know AB has not done much at world cups but inspite of the thread starter's ways, you cant deny he is one of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time. I say Viv at #1 coz as unprecedented as what Sachin did was as an ODI player, what Viv did was even more unprecedented.

 

[honestbharani]

You know what I will do as a captain? I will whack a couple of sixes and remain not out to boost my average

[QOUTE]
And funny how "outside his continent" is suddenly a measure of batting greatness.. Of course you can't use outside his country
on two times India won the Test mace remind me how they won them... yeah, million home series

Yes and the others of course beat everyone everywhere to claim theirs.

And I am not even gonna discuss your other response coz as stupid as your post is, I still love AB and he is still my favorite batsman to watch. So I cant bring myself to finding the plentiful holes in his resume, like you are trying with Dhoni.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Translate: I just like Ponting more...

If AB can't even be as likeable as Ponting (who was a ****ing **** himself) , then it's a huge black mark against him imo.

 

[Pratters]

Discussion on some of the greatest ODI batsmen of all time should.

Thread was doing just fine till you mentioned why it is not mentioning Bevan or Dhoni. Now it is a big pool of every thing.

 

[harsh.ag]

Think a better question is whether ABdV is ahead of Sachin. Hard to say yes given my bias, but think he is. Just about.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Yeah I think I agree. Tendulkar has the aggregates, but he wasn't quite as destructive as AB can be at times.

 

[Pratters]

They are all different categories. Tendulkar holds his own as opener.

 

[honestbharani]

Thread was doing just fine till you mentioned why it is not mentioning Bevan or Dhoni. Now it is a big pool of every thing.

Lol.. No it was not. As usual, though, you are missing the point.

 

[honestbharani]

I wont put AB ahead of Sachin yet. World Cups are not the be all and end all of ODI cricket butt hey are still an important part. If he can tear it up in the next two ICC events, I am sure I will rate him higher than Sachin but as of now, not yet.

 

[Pratters]

How can Dhoni be the greatest? **** no.

 

[harsh.ag]

Yeah Sachin was amaze in World Cups. Also a pioneer of opening along with Jayasuriya. Jayasuriya gets all the credit and, while he deserves a lot of it, some of it should go to Sachin as well. Began doing it two years ahead of Jayasuriya in 1994.