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*** Official*** South Africa in England 2017
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Spark
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It's Lord's tbf. This happens all the time; everyone looks at the pitch and agrees it'll be a road, then it darts around for the first session and wickets tumble and everyone gets excited, but then after lunch the original assessment is proved correct.BW was spot on earlier in this thread, England's batting only gets warmed up after they lose their first 3 for 50 or so.
OverratedSanity
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Yeah, apart from that one in the 2014 Ind series, which started off absolutely insane and flattened out to pretty sporting, it's always been this way for ages.
Unless you're McGrath, it's a pretty sad place to bowl for the most part.
Spark
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I mean a lot of that is down to the fact that half the time it's England batting first up and England's top order has been somewhere between inadequate and just plain **** for a while now.
Stapel
International Regular
Yeah. Gun bowler!
Yet, as much as I rate him, I feel 160 wickets @22 makes him look like Marshall or McGrath. Which he is not.
Yeah he's benefited bowling with Steyn giving him so many new bats to target but he is undisputedly a brilliant bowler. The opposite is also true as well obviously.
grecian
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Nah, it doesn't really, because it's only 160 wickets, longevity is a big deciding factor in why Marshall and the like are considered greats, think Vernon will fall down in that reckoning.
He's very good at what he does though, and I've never really got the doubters.
Scaly piscine
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Not a chance they'll get banned unfortunately. But there really needs to be a 10 runs/over penalty for every over lost on days like today.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
This is the first look I've had at Marahaj. Looks a wee bit pedestrian, doesn't he?
Not expecting it to rag square on day one at Lords, but he doesn't look to be putting much work on the ball either.
Bit of Mark Butcher about Bavuma's bowling for me. No pace at all, but does swing it.
Not expecting it to rag square on day one at Lords, but he doesn't look to be putting much work on the ball either.
Bit of Mark Butcher about Bavuma's bowling for me. No pace at all, but does swing it.
Howe_zat
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He was excellent in Australia, really consistent and patient.
I've only been watching since tea but I'd suggest Root has knocked him off his rythm
Stapel
International Regular
I've never really understood what's so bad about going on for (yet) another half hour, if play has been slow.
What I really, really DO like, is a captain that takes a few seconds more, every over again & again, to get their field right, have a talk with the bowlers, and check again. It's what Test Cricket is about. Or at least what I likw about it! I coulnd't be arsed about a few minutes....
What I really, really DO like, is a captain that takes a few seconds more, every over again & again, to get their field right, have a talk with the bowlers, and check again. It's what Test Cricket is about. Or at least what I likw about it! I coulnd't be arsed about a few minutes....
Because they would then slow down even further, give them an inch and they take a mile.