BCCI looks set to lose vote on revenue sharing model

[Shri]

The hypocrisy of this is laughable. On the one hand you defend the power games played by a dominate force in world cricket then chastise the like of US/UK govt for the exact same thing only they are a dominate force in world politics.

Yes I agree more aid should be provided. We spend 10 times the amount on weapons contracts than what we give in aid. Just be watching an excellent debate on humanitarian intervention on big questions on the beeb earlier today.

Anyway **** the BBCI hope yous end up looking like fools and don't show up next month.

Dominant and dominate are different.

 

[mackembhoy]

Dominant and dominate are different.

That they are, never mind,

 

[harsh.ag]

The hypocrisy of this is laughable. On the one hand you defend the power games played by a dominate force in world cricket then chastise the like of US/UK govt for the exact same thing only they are a dominate force in world politics.

Yes I agree more aid should be provided. We spend 10 times the amount on weapons contracts than what we give in aid. Just be watching an excellent debate on humanitarian intervention on big questions on the beeb earlier today.

Anyway **** the BBCI hope yous end up looking like fools and don't show up next month.

There is no hypocrisy. I didn't chastise the US/UK/other-rich-country govt. Because I don't think the world is that simple.

And my biggest problem with your line of reasoning is the "you" at the end and all the personal attack at fans. Fans don't have a say in it. And there are different kind of fans with different tastes, who all are fans in the full sense.

If you think more aid should be provided, that's fine. Will you be okay with paying more taxes for that? Why can't you just give more from your paycheque directly? There are lots of ways to tie yourself up in knots with this line of reasoning.

 

[Pratters]

There is no hypocrisy. I didn't chastise the US/UK/other-rich-country govt. Because I don't think the world is that simple.

And my biggest problem with your line of reasoning is the "you" at the end and all the personal attack at fans. Fans don't have a say in it. And there are different kind of fans with different tastes, who all are fans in the full sense.

If you think more aid should be provided, that's fine. Will you be okay with paying more taxes for that? Why can't you just give more from your paycheque directly? There are lots of ways to tie yourself up in knots with this line of reasoning.

Fans don't have a say in it? Fans are bringing in the money as sponsors sponsor because they think fans will buy their products.

 

[harsh.ag]

Fans don't have a say in it? Fans are bringing in the money as sponsors sponsor because they think fans will buy their products.

Fans have a say in it only as far as their taste in cricket goes. If someone only cares about India playing with Aus/Eng/SA/Pak, then he is not a fan as per mackemboy's definition.

 

[mackembhoy]

There is no hypocrisy. I didn't chastise the US/UK/other-rich-country govt. Because I don't think the world is that simple.

And my biggest problem with your line of reasoning is the "you" at the end and all the personal attack at fans. Fans don't have a say in it. And there are different kind of fans with different tastes, who all are fans in the full sense.

If you think more aid should be provided, that's fine. Will you be okay with paying more taxes for that? Why can't you just give more from your paycheque directly? There are lots of ways to tie yourself up in knots with this line of reasoning.

It not the fans fault the BCCI are being greedy. I'm just amazed anyone not part of the BCCI agrees with it.

Mind there are idiots everywhere. Yeah I'm being inflammatory part of the fun of forums.

 

[mackembhoy]

Fans have a say in it only as far as their taste in cricket goes. If someone only cares about India playing with Aus/Eng/SA/Pak, then he is not a fan as per mackemboy's definition.

Well they ain't. A cricket fan should want the best for the game.

Those are India fans not cricket fans. I watch cricket wanting to see a good game and if England win that's a bonus unless were talking about Australia.

Football is a lot more partisan than cricket and there my opinion changes. My username being in reference to Sunderland and Celtic football clubs

 

[dontcloseyoureyes]

Pictured: harsh.ag leaping from one point of logic to the next

 

[honestbharani]

I don't think that is quite right.... I don't think the Indian public would have quite the interest, as big as it all is. How much money does Indian cricket make domestically outside the IPL? I also think that things like the Ashes and a few other series outside Indian cricket would still be bought by Indian sports so it is not like BCCI could close the Indian TV rights off altogether....
Aus and Eng would be fine... it is the smaller associated teams that would suffer, maybe SA depending of supprot of Eng and Aus. And right now BCCI are demanding 70% of 'international' monies forgetting that it takes 2 teams to play. And the money being 'taken' from BCCI is going to the smaller associations... it is just not quite cut and dry as BCCI make it out as.

Nah it is very simple. If the ICC can table a formula where a certain amount is earmarked for associates, and then split the rest of the money among the boards based on proper formulae where the people bringing in the money are recognized, it wont be an issue. All the ICC are doing now is taking money out of the BCCI and giving it to themselves, every other board as well as the associates. BIased as the big 3 formula was, it at least mentioned a formula. Here it has just been pulled straight out of nowhere.

 

[Pratters]

Cricket is not there to just exist to maximise commercial revenue. It should cater to test cricket, first class cricket , developing and expanding the game etc. The big 3 proposals of having 10 team world cups, less funding for associates etc are not good for the game.

 

[harsh.ag]

They have decided to not spoil the Champions Trophy after all. Squad to be announced tomorrow.

 

[StephenZA]

Nah it is very simple. If the ICC can table a formula where a certain amount is earmarked for associates, and then split the rest of the money among the boards based on proper formulae where the people bringing in the money are recognized, it wont be an issue. All the ICC are doing now is taking money out of the BCCI and giving it to themselves, every other board as well as the associates. BIased as the big 3 formula was, it at least mentioned a formula. Here it has just been pulled straight out of nowhere.

Fair enough, but the Eng and Aus boards took a cut upped some of the others equally so that WI, SA, Aus all get the same amount. The BCCI are being offered more than 50% of what those boards are getting. And the balance is going to the associates.

What has the BCCI proposed to fix what was a bad deal for everybody else but the big 3 other than to stamp it's foot and say give me what I want?

 

[Shri]

and if England win that's a bonus

Spot the 90s fan.

 

[Shri]

Cricket is not there to just exist to maximise commercial revenue. It should cater to test cricket, first class cricket , developing and expanding the game etc. The big 3 proposals of having 10 team world cups, less funding for associates etc are not good for the game.

Where will all that come from for India without our fair share? Its not all going into someone's pocket. We need it to improve infrastructure and grassroots development. Considering our size and all the states and attention that they need, we are right to look after our own interests. But all that being said, I don't think this issue is that serious. If they try to hurt us, we have the ability to **** everyone else raw. This is nothing more than a mild annoyance afaic.

 

[indiaholic]

Lol Shri living vicariously through the BCCI.

 

[Shri]

We are seriously huge geographically and by population. We haven't hit our potential yet when it comes to generating revenue. Every nation should shut the **** up and let the rising tide that is India lift their boats up too.

 

[Pratters]

Yeah, India can earn a lot more money. However, do they care enough not to **** up tests or development of other countries. I had one fan comment to me couple of days back that countries don't help other countries where people live in slums so why should be help other countries. I would like test cricket to become stronger, not weaker. I don't mind India earning ad much money as they can as long as they are responsible about not killing away some core things about cricket.

 

[mackembhoy]

Spot the 90s fan.

Well I was born in 92 so guess again. Think 03 was when I got into cricket, maybes a bit earlier.

 

[Firebreaker]

Only some deluded psychopaths actually thought that India was going to boycott from CT

 

[indiaholic]

Yeah, India can earn a lot more money. However, do they care enough not to **** up tests or development of other countries. I had one fan comment to me couple of days back that countries don't help other countries where people live in slums so why should be help other countries. I would like test cricket to become stronger, not weaker. I don't mind India earning ad much money as they can as long as they are responsible about not killing away some core things about cricket.

Well countries do help each other. I think we receive around 2.5bn in aid every year.