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    Originally posted by koch_cha
    When u have a team with good 4 or 5 batsmen u will not have to depend on the same man all the time as england is now doing
    with thorpe

    so india can manage well enough with ganguly and he is one of the best captian the game has seen and surely the best that india has produced
    Could say the same about India's seamers, but someone would only twist my words again.

    Ganguly might be one of the best captains India have produced but that the game has ever seen? Do not kid yourself, pal. He is not worthy to be mentioned in the same breath as Mike Brearley, Clive Lloyd, Alan Border, Steve Waugh, Lindsay Hassett, Peter May etc etc etc.
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    Originally posted by koch_cha
    in u r early post u have clearly stated that india have a poor pace attack at present. and to win test matches with such an attack u sholud be a good leader because in cricket a captians skill is seen during the feilding not batting.

    with such a poor idea about u r own post. i dont under stand how can u read a game better than ganguly as u have mentioned

    and pls suggest that name of club cricketer to england because they might need him when england are playing india in the natwest challenge
    lets have a little look:

    Under the captaincy of Ganguly, India have won 1 of their last 8 tests.

    In all,Ganguly has captained India 37 times..won 14 lost 11.

    A breakdown of that:


    P W L T D
    v Australia 7 3 2 0 2
    v Bangladesh 1 1 0 0 0
    v England 7 2 1 0 4
    v New Zealand 3 0 2 0 1
    v South Africa 2 0 1 0 1
    v Sri Lanka 3 1 2 0 0
    v West Indies 8 3 2 0 3
    v Zimbabwe 6 4 1 0 1


    in Australia 4 1 1 0 2
    in Bangladesh 1 1 0 0 0
    in England 4 1 1 0 2
    in India 14 8 1 0 5
    in New Zealand 2 0 2 0 0
    in South Africa 2 0 1 0 1
    in Sri Lanka 3 1 2 0 0
    in West Indies 5 1 2 0 2
    in Zimbabwe 2 1 1 0 0

    is that record really that outstanding????? This is the best INdia team we have ever seen...tons of talent..but is that a great record????...NO
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    and i think most of us have seen times when Ganguly has just looked lost captaining his team (nail biting portrays such powerful body language)....other senior players almost take over when thinks get tough

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    Originally posted by Swervy
    lets have a little look:

    is that record really that outstanding????? This is the best INdia team we have ever seen...tons of talent..but is that a great record????...NO
    When u consider the fact that inida have a realy bad bowling attack. ganguly will be the best captian if u take into consideration the bowling attack that other captians had may be fleming will be a little better
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    Originally posted by Swervy
    and i think most of us have seen times when Ganguly has just looked lost captaining his team (nail biting portrays such powerful body language)....other senior players almost take over when thinks get tough
    other senior players u mean dravid and sachin just give me one single example to prove u r statement ????? mention the game

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    Originally posted by koch_cha
    other senior players u mean dravid and sachin just give me one single example to prove u r statement ????? mention the game
    certainly one or two of the tests vs England (which one, I dont remember)...Sachin was actually setting fielding positions, whilst Ganguly stood there biting his nails...great captaincy

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    Originally posted by koch_cha
    When u have a team with good 4 or 5 batsmen u will not have to depend on the same man all the time as england is now doing
    with thorpe
    Oh ignore Hussain and Butcher.

    I seem to remember Vaughan scoring good runs in SL as well...
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    Originally posted by koch_cha
    with almost all of this players in england attack they had to settel for a 1-1 draw in test and lost 5 of the last 6 ODI aganist an india team
    Almost all?

    For a start only 2 of the attack regularly play ODIs,

    In the Tests I believe that Harmison and Jones played once each in that series, and Hoggard was top wicket-taker in ther series.

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    Originally posted by marc71178
    That is a series of games interupted only by injury.

    Surely the level of success over that period in different conditions is more praiseworthy than a similar run in just one series?
    And I havent said he hasnt bowled well or doesnt deserve his spot.
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