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    Titans beat the Lions.

    Albertus Morkel still showing his batting quality !

    Ngidi was quick. Got to 144 effortlessly but still can be erratic.

    Needs some 4-day cricket to groove his action.
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    With Rickelton being chosen as the young batsman the Lions are investing in , it has a resulted in the talented Marques Ackerman moving to Durban to give it a shot for the Dolphins which is a very good move. Considering their batting includes the near-retiring van Wyk, the enigmatic , talented but tubby VVJ and Kolpak Vilas.

    Roelofsen also made the move in the off-season and as a keeper/batsman he will get opportunities eventually with van Wyk/Vilas.

    Gauteng really are spreading the talent around the country. In the last 4 Coke Weeks (before recent one where they dominate again) the following have been SA u19 or SA Schools stars.

    Boland : Ricardo Vasconcelos (20) , Brandon Glover (20)
    KZN Coastal : Marques Ackerman (21), Keith Dudgeon (22)
    KZN Inland : Grant Roelofsen (21)
    Gauteng : Ryan Rickelton (21), Wiaan Mulder (19), Kagiso Rabada (22) , Muhammed Mayet (19)
    Northerns : Tony de Zorzi (20), Mitchell van Buuren (19)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeamUp View Post
    Ngidi was quick. Got to 144 effortlessly but still can be erratic.
    His action definitely looks changed, more de Lange-ish. I don't like it, thought it was smoother before, had more control. I suspect it was done to try stop him from stressing his back again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenZA View Post
    His action definitely looks changed, more de Lange-ish. I don't like it, thought it was smoother before, had more control. I suspect it was done to try stop him from stressing his back again.
    Be interesting to see comparisons.

    Ultimately he was always a chest on bowler who bowled back of a length and hit the seam into right-handers ? Still looks what he is about.


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    Surprising to me, but doesn't seem like rest of SA squad playing in One-Day Cup tomorrow (were still at ground today). I don't get picking a squad of 15 for a home test... Some of those need to be getting time in the middle, not kicking their heels.

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    Rory Kleinveldt & Ryan McLaren both 34 still waiting if they will be playing County Cricket for Northants and Lancashire next year after arguably their best seasons in County Cricket. Both were overseas players though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAB View Post
    Surprising to me, but doesn't seem like rest of SA squad playing in One-Day Cup tomorrow (were still at ground today). I don't get picking a squad of 15 for a home test... Some of those need to be getting time in the middle, not kicking their heels.
    Definitely agree.

    I guess Otis & staff are trying to familiarise and work with players early in their tenure.

    Normally 15-man squads for a home test series are overkill.

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    Great to see Dupavillon make his come-back for KZN Coastal in a 1-day game on Sunday. But think they will be patient. Maybe back end of 50-over comp or when the 4-day series resumes if things are going well.

    It isn't only Dupavillon who has been injured but also young quicks Okuhle Cele and Lwandiswa Zuma (both with the SA Academy last season) and Cele has been included in their squad for Paarl. He was disappointing in the tour games for Invitation teams but he looks a stocky fella who if he has stamina could be an interesting first change option the more he gain experience with the Dolphins. But is probably well behind Zuma in potential.

    Talking about the Dolphins. Morgan rating his all-rounders as they head off for Paarl.

    "Our all-rounders like Rob (Frylinck), Calvin (Savage), Sen (Muthusamy) and Prenelan (Subrayen) have got to the stage now where they don't allow, for example, their batting to suffer if they bowl well.

    "They are too good and are now taking on true all-rounder status," Morgan said confidently.

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    I know Subrayens first cousin. I asked about his action and was told that he has a bent arm ala Murali. First I've heard of it. Was also told he is really working on his batting.

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    Before this season, in 21 Limited Over innings, Gihahn Cloete had an average of 29,3 and a S/R of 62. Where has he suddenly discovered attacking shots from? Up until now, he's been strictly a nurdler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahseph View Post
    I know Subrayens first cousin. I asked about his action and was told that he has a bent arm ala Murali. First I've heard of it. Was also told he is really working on his batting.
    Been suspended twice but to be honest I've never felt it was really bad. Mainly his quicker ball and doosra that was questioned. It's been tough for him so young but hopefully with time his confidence will be fully back because he was very good at u19 (with guys like de Kock, Bowes, Cloete, de Bruyn, Savage, Williams, Dry) and Dolphins involved him whilst still a teenager which is young for a spinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAB View Post
    Before this season, in 21 Limited Over innings, Gihahn Cloete had an average of 29,3 and a S/R of 62. Where has he suddenly discovered attacking shots from? Up until now, he's been strictly a nurdler!
    Cloete is a weird player. Can play all around the wicket and has actually got a 4-day hundred vs England Lions. One of his strengths used to be when he got in he scored a 100. But he wasn't even doing that anymore. Obviously better in the longer version but possibly getting the gloves off him helped.

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    I definitely see him as a good T20 option for us eventually. He can bowl at any time and is a decent fielder and hitter at the death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahseph View Post
    I definitely see him as a good T20 option for us eventually. He can bowl at any time and is a decent fielder and hitter at the death.
    Think so too. Definitely think his chances will come in shorter formats as he seems better when he bowls quicker.

    Off-spin : Piedt, Harmer, Subrayen
    Slow left-arm : Maharaj, Fortuin, Linde, Simmonds/Muthusamy
    Wrist-spin : Tahir, Shamsi, von Berg

    10 years ago we didn't have this sort of potential. The spin camps in India an Sri Lanka clearly good planning.
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    Dolphins team today looking much stronger with Tahir, Frylinck, Savage, Subrayen and Phehlukwayo as the bowling attack. Also good to see Chetty at 6. We need more cake to go along with the icing haha

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