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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    FTFY. Although TBH that might be the most dour opening pair seen in world cricket for a long while.
    dude you're dropping Warner from the side when he'll probably be the most valuable player in Australian conditions

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJediBrah View Post
    dude you're dropping Warner from the side when he'll probably be the most valuable player in Australian conditions
    Nah not my team. I just dropped Wade and selected Nevill for gnske because Wade.

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    Warner's stats are literally meaningless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnske View Post
    Warner's stats are literally meaningless
    Dropping Warner for the next home series after this would be like dropping Roger Federer from your local tennis team because you played a game of water polo the week before and he wasn't that good at it.


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    OK so Renshaw, Warner, Smith, Handscomb or locked in, Wade will be preserved with, Khawaja will return once out of the subcontinent.
    So three issues are:who gets 6, which spin option (Lyon more spin, O'keefe more control and handy bat) and if Starc returns from injury who do you pick from
    Cummins ~Raw pace and can be devastating if fit
    Starc -Lefty, pace, late swing
    Hazelwood - Metronimc McGrath like
    Pattinson - Raw pace but liable to breakdowns
    Bird - Amazing FC record

    Could play 4 pacemen in Perth, but elsewhere in OZ you generally need a spinner

    Has O'keefe managed to sneak past the GOAT??

    Has Maxwell century given him a few tests at 6?? Problem is Smith won't bowl him, so why not pick a pure batter at 6??


    O'Keefe
    Cummins
    Starc
    Pattinson

    Is an awesomely strong tail wihout sacrificing too much in bowling strike power but probably need a 5th bowling option to allow short bursts of intense speed from the 3 express bowlers.
    However Hazelwood has done nothing to be dropped and Bird could be awesome as well.

    So
    Ranshaw
    Warner
    Khawaja
    Smith
    Handscomb
    Maxwell/SMarsh
    Wade
    O'Keefe
    Cummins
    Starc (if not fit Pattinson)
    Hazelwood

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    Wade not batting above Maxwell?

    smh

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    They'll pick Marsh (either one) over Maxwell any day of the week. I'd love to be proven wrong here though, Maxwell has shown Test-match like patience in the past.

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    Come next summer I think we'll see:

    Renshaw
    Warner
    Khawaja
    Smith*
    Handscomb
    Maxwell
    Wade+
    Starc
    Pattinson
    Lyon
    Hazlewood

    I really think Pattinson is 4th in line now. Starc gets a pass because he gives left-handed variety and footmarks for Lyon. Lyon uses bounce so he'll get the home tests. Pattinson is a case of "if he's fit, he plays". And Hazlewood is undroppable (he's ranked 3rd in the world FFS).

    Pattinson being 4th in line is a pretty scary prospect for England.

    Marsh hasn't done enough to retain his spot over Khawaja at home IMO. He's had a couple of good innings in India but I think Khawaja is better at home. Poor Khawaja was so good over the summer and really shouldn't have been dropped (if it was anywhere but India he'd be playing IMO).

    They should pick Nevill over Wade, but the selectors are terrible at picking wicketkeepers right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy101 View Post
    They'll pick Marsh (either one) over Maxwell any day of the week. I'd love to be proven wrong here though, Maxwell has shown Test-match like patience in the past.
    No chance Maxwell is dropped unless he really stinks up in the next Test

    I really hope they stick with SOK or 4 quicks come more normal conditions instead of Lyon. Lyon is just a waste of a spot, he can't even hold a bat anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    I really think Pattinson is 4th in line now. Starc gets a pass because he gives left-handed variety and footmarks for Lyon. Lyon uses bounce so he'll get the home tests. Pattinson is a case of "if he's fit, he plays". And Hazlewood is undroppable (he's ranked 3rd in the world FFS).

    Pattinson being 4th in line is a pretty scary prospect for England.
    Whole point is moot IMO. Those 4 will never all be fit at the same time.
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    On the point of picking a "proper batsman" at 6.

    If Smith isn't bowling Maxwell, surely they already are picking a specialist batsman at 6?

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    If we were playing only one spinner Maxwell would bowl a whole lot more.

    I think Lyon really should be a 50/50 prospect for the 4th Test at best. Finger isn't doing him any favours. I'd be very closely looking at a three man pace attack (good to take some pressure off Haze and Cummo after the amount of overs they bowled) and having Maxwell as the guy spinning it the other way from SOK.

    Only another Pune/Bengaluru dustbowl should keep Lyon in the side I reckon. Harsh on him, but batsmen have missed plenty of tests for finger injuries. If his bowling is impeded (and it looks like it is) then he has to make way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    Come next summer I think we'll see:

    Renshaw
    Warner
    Khawaja
    Smith*
    Handscomb
    Maxwell
    Wade+
    Starc
    Pattinson
    Lyon
    Hazlewood

    I really think Pattinson is 4th in line now. Starc gets a pass because he gives left-handed variety and footmarks for Lyon. Lyon uses bounce so he'll get the home tests. Pattinson is a case of "if he's fit, he plays". And Hazlewood is undroppable (he's ranked 3rd in the world FFS).

    Pattinson being 4th in line is a pretty scary prospect for England.

    Marsh hasn't done enough to retain his spot over Khawaja at home IMO. He's had a couple of good innings in India but I think Khawaja is better at home. Poor Khawaja was so good over the summer and really shouldn't have been dropped (if it was anywhere but India he'd be playing IMO).

    They should pick Nevill over Wade, but the selectors are terrible at picking wicketkeepers right now.
    For the home summer they *should* go:

    Renshaw
    Warner
    Khawaja
    Smith *
    Handscomb
    Maxwell
    Nevill +
    O'Keefe
    Starc
    Pattinson/Cummins
    Hazelwood

    As harsh as it may be on Lyon, I think O'Keefe just offers more to the team. Just as likely to take a wicket, more economical, and a better bat. With a combo of Starc/Cummins/Pattinson plus Hazelwood in the team, I'd rather a spinner who can bowl long economical spells. Also, with Maxwell in the team, we can have some offies as required.

    Wade can **** off, bring back Nev or someone else ASAP.

    Khawaja comes back in. I don't drop SMarsh lightly, but what's the point when he's five years older than Maxwell. Should be a tour reserve anyway for some time considering he's capable of opening or batting middle order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adub View Post
    If we were playing only one spinner Maxwell would bowl a whole lot more.

    I think Lyon really should be a 50/50 prospect for the 4th Test at best. Finger isn't doing him any favours. I'd be very closely looking at a three man pace attack (good to take some pressure off Haze and Cummo after the amount of overs they bowled) and having Maxwell as the guy spinning it the other way from SOK.

    Only another Pune/Bengaluru dustbowl should keep Lyon in the side I reckon. Harsh on him, but batsmen have missed plenty of tests for finger injuries. If his bowling is impeded (and it looks like it is) then he has to make way.
    I'm worried that they'll use some of this logic, and then end up picking Ashton Agar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Compton View Post
    I'm worried that they'll use some of this logic, and then end up picking Ashton Agar.
    It's a risk us Aussies have been living with for a loooooooooooooooong time.

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    Agar
    Cummins
    O'Keefe
    Haze

    Is a more than decent tail, if you ignore Agar's bowling ability.

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