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Another Aussie - Another Honest Mistake

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Sanz

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Why do these Aussies keep making so many 'Honest Mistakes' ?

"Langer attended a disciplinary inquiry after the close of play on Friday night, following a bizarre incident during the morning session, when Australia belatedly appealed for a hit-wicket decision against Hashan Tillakaratne. The umpires referred the decision to the third umpire to verify how Tillakaratne's bail had been dislodged.

http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat...S/2004/MAR/107536_SLAUS2003-04_26MAR2004.html

CHEATS of HIGHEST ORDER. :lol: :lol:
 

luckyeddie

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sorry, I just don't see it.

In order to cheat, you have to have some way of influencing the outcome. In order for a batsman to be dismissed 'hit wicket', the umpire (or the third umpire) would have to see the bail being knocked off by the batsman.

Clearly, it was knocked off by Langer (either mischief-making or accidental). In no way could it be construed as cheating because there was no way the fall of a wicket could be influenced by such an action.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
luckyeddie said:
Clearly, it was knocked off by Langer (either mischief-making or accidental). In no way could it be construed as cheating because there was no way the fall of a wicket could be influenced by such an action.
Didn't the australians appeal for 'Hit wicket' ?? Thank God the Camera was pointing at the stumps when it happened, otherwise they surely would have got their man.:P
 
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luckyeddie

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Sanz said:
Didn't the australians appealed for 'Hit wicket' ?? Thank God the Camera was pointing at the stumps when it happened, otherwise they surely would have got their man.:P
Couldn't possibly have been answered in the affirmative - the third umpire could not give a batsman out on the evidence of the bail being off.

The Aussies appealed for 'hit wicket' because they saw the bail on the ground - and they wouldn't know exactly how it got there (other than gravity, of course). Consequently they appealed.

Anyone see Corky a few years ago? Knocked the bail off after setting off for a run. The batsmen ran two, Cork made his ground, noticed the bail on the ground so picked it up and put it back on top of the wicket. Not a squeak from the fielders.
 

Sanz

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tooextracool said:
langer would hafta be really stupid to think he would get away with that
Well he is not stupid, he knew he would get away with it and he was right.
:lol:
 

Sanz

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luckyeddie said:
The Aussies appealed for 'hit wicket' because they saw the bail on the ground - and they wouldn't know exactly how it got there (other than gravity, of course). Consequently they appealed.


:lol: :lol:
 

Sanz

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marc71178 said:
Sorry, but what's he got away with?

I fail to see what he's done wrong here.
Dislodging the bails and then claiming a hit wicket. That is bringing the game into disrepute or something.


If that's not cheating OOps I am sorry that was an 'Honest Mistake'.:lol: :saint:
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Well it appears that Langer has knocked the bails off inadvertantly, and then as his team mates have seen the bails dislodged have appealed against Tillekeratne...

So Langer hasnt done anything wrong...
 

Sanz

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Langeveldt said:
Well it appears that Langer has knocked the bails off inadvertantly, and then as his team mates have seen the bails dislodged have appealed against Tillekeratne...

So Langer hasnt done anything wrong...
And I am sure his body was too numb to notice that inadvertent knocking of Bails.

Langer should try in Hollywood, He will do well there with such good acting skills, infact most aussie cricketers should do well there.
 

Andre

International Regular
Sanz said:
Why do these Aussies keep making so many 'Honest Mistakes' ?

"Langer attended a disciplinary inquiry after the close of play on Friday night, following a bizarre incident during the morning session, when Australia belatedly appealed for a hit-wicket decision against Hashan Tillakaratne. The umpires referred the decision to the third umpire to verify how Tillakaratne's bail had been dislodged.

http://usa.cricinfo.com/link_to_dat...S/2004/MAR/107536_SLAUS2003-04_26MAR2004.html

CHEATS of HIGHEST ORDER. :lol: :lol:
Ahhhh... but the one who judges before seeing all the possible information ends up cheating himself.

Think about it.
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
And i dont know why you seem to think its a racial divide in cricket and something to do with Aussies being cheats.. When the ICC President Ehsan Mani gets away with remarks like "The ICC is virtually Asian"

Bodes well doesnt it!
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
Langeveldt said:
And i dont know why you seem to think its a racial divide in cricket and something to do with Aussies being cheats.. When the ICC President Ehsan Mani gets away with remarks like "The ICC is virtually Asian"

Bodes well doesnt it!
Maybe its because there are one set of rules for players from
Australia, RSA. England, New Zealand and another set for players from the subcontinent.

Akhtar gets a ban for abusing batsmen yet Nel is equally foul mouthed, but nothing happens to him.
Bucknor admonishes Parthiv for excessive appealing, yet Gilchrist appeals just as excessively in the course of a big Indian partnership and not one word is said to him.
Questions are raised about a subcontinental bowler's action and he has to go thru the process of rectifying his action and/or having it certified.
Venkat raised questions about Brett Lee's action in New Zealand in 2000 and the whole thing was swept under the carpet very quickly and quietly.

I could go on -- there are countless more examples.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
jamesryfler said:
Questions are raised about a subcontinental bowler's action and he has to go thru the process of rectifying his action and/or having it certified.
Sorry, not having that. There have been any number of bowlers cited for questionable actions over the last few years - from just about every country.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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jamesryfler said:
1/ Akhtar gets a ban for abusing batsmen yet Nel is equally foul mouthed, but nothing happens to him.

....

2/ Questions are raised about a subcontinental bowler's action and he has to go thru the process of rectifying his action and/or having it certified.
3/ Venkat raised questions about Brett Lee's action in New Zealand in 2000 and the whole thing was swept under the carpet very quickly and quietly.
1/ From my memory, Nel's action wasn't quite abuse of the batsman. He stuck out his tongue, had a couple of words and got a fitting punishment.
2/ There have been many bowlers around the world who have come into question for their actions. Besides, are you denying that some of the players from the subcontinent who have come into question have faulty actions?
3/ Perhaps Lee was cleared?
 
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