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    I'd bring the Neesh back in for CDG, and give Nicholls the boot for Brownlie. I'd say Brownlie's experience and ability to play pace should put him well above Henry for this series. Nicholl's not moving his feet against Steyn, Philander and Rabada will be dead man walking stuff.

    Will that happen? doubt it.

    Matt Henry needs to be left in Domestic cricket to work out how to take wickets again. Lockie Ferguson made the Blackcaps through his pace and 4 day form. Him and Jamieson are well ahead of the other seamers so far in Plunket Shield. Is he ready for Test cricket? Probably not. Neither is Jamieson, Bracewell and Nuttall are gone, and I would have more faith in Lockie lsting the distance over Wheeler in a test match.

    In other words, I reckon we should stay with Southee, Boult and Wags through lack of options more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    I'll be particularly interested to see how Rabada adjusts. He's obviously a class above, but he's spent his entire career so far playing on fast hard wickets. New Zealand surfaces require a different length and approach so it'll be great to see how he responds to the challenge.
    To be fair, Rabada has had ODI success during tours of Bangladesh, India, and in the Caribbean. As well as playing 3 Tests in India.
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    NZ will need Boult back to his best and he'll have to back it up consistently. Southee as always will probably bowl a good spell or two across the series, and Wagner will be good and reliable. But a firing Boult is irreplaceable for NZ because he can run through the middle and lower order. He's great with those late swinging yorkers.

    Hope Kane has a dominant series as well. I think SA will win 2-0.
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    First two tests might be draws. Reckon our best shot to knock off South Africa is Hamilton in a game that would go down similar to this: 1st Test: New Zealand v England at Hamilton, Mar 5-9, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

    Mind you, last time we played them in Hamilton, they thrashed us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    First two tests might be draws. Reckon our best shot to knock off South Africa is Hamilton in a game that would go down similar to this: 1st Test: New Zealand v England at Hamilton, Mar 5-9, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

    Mind you, last time we played them in Hamilton, they thrashed us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    First two tests might be draws. Reckon our best shot to knock off South Africa is Hamilton in a game that would go down similar to this: 1st Test: New Zealand v England at Hamilton, Mar 5-9, 2008 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

    Mind you, last time we played them in Hamilton, they thrashed us.
    I recall that's when they picked Arnel ahead of Boult. Gillespie bowled really well though, but NZ were outgunned.

    Just looking at Ferguson's first class record, it's quite good given his home ground is Eden Park Outer Oval (ave 25.09). Did he have the same issue with losing pace in his later spells in the ODI's against Bangladesh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapeTown Guy View Post
    To be fair, Rabada has had ODI success during tours of Bangladesh, India, and in the Caribbean. As well as playing 3 Tests in India.
    And I think he had a decent spell for Kent last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CapeTown Guy View Post
    To be fair, Rabada has had ODI success during tours of Bangladesh, India, and in the Caribbean. As well as playing 3 Tests in India.
    Yeah. And although he didn't get wickets in those tests, I thought he bowled pretty well. Going to be interesting to see how he adjusts to NZ though.

    Also NZ batsmen are historically bad at playing real pace. Don't know how some of the current players enough to judge them there but if he cranks it up, it'll be fun.
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    I reckon that with AB out our XI is fairly settled.

    The only chances I can see is Maharaj maybe coming in for Olivier, and possibly De Bruyn for Bavuma.

    Are the Test grounds we're playing on places we're likely to need a spinner, or is it possible we might go with four fast bowlers on any of the pitches?

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    4 quicks IMO with Duminy to bowl some spin.

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    I think that this Test Series will be the most competitive, even series all year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    4 quicks IMO with Duminy to bowl some spin.
    I don't know that Duminy is seen as that much more than a part-time option these days. The only recent match where he's bowled a substantial number of overs was in Perth, and that was because presumably to make up for Steyn's injury. So unless it's a Wanderers-like pitch, I think they'll go for Maharaj and three quicks, with Parnell at the moment seeming to have the nod over Olivier.

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    Honestly feel like SA will dominate. 2-0 or 3-0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I think that this Test Series will be the most competitive, even series all year.
    Interested in what you base that on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dendarii View Post
    I don't know that Duminy is seen as that much more than a part-time option these days. The only recent match where he's bowled a substantial number of overs was in Perth, and that was because presumably to make up for Steyn's injury. So unless it's a Wanderers-like pitch, I think they'll go for Maharaj and three quicks, with Parnell at the moment seeming to have the nod over Olivier.
    Yes, I agree 100% with this.

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