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***Official*** South Africa in New Zealand 2017
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If it doesn't rain, we're hot favourites. If it does, without doing math I imagine we'd have had to score at 7-8 an over then run through SA in 40-50 overs. So yeah, I haven't seen a single bemoaning of how slow we scored, in a situation where we felt we had 2 days v a very good attack who weren't exactly in attack mode field-set wise.
The one that makes me laugh more is reading 'don't hold Tests in location X' etc. It rains in NZ, everywhere. This summer, the Napier ODI fell a day early, the Dunedin Test a day late as with this one. Matches would've gone ahead in some regions they weren't played in. David White is simple enough without having to predict weather months in advance in different regions
Mike5181
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Even scoring at 4s rather than 2.9 would have given us an extra 16 overs at South Africa last night tbf. There are a lot of other variables that go into it obviously. The extra fatigue for South Africa's batsmen, scoring quicker increases risk which might have caused a collapse and we don't even get the extra 168, ****ing de Kock and Faf, etc. There's a case to be made here, though.
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Well that sucks for NZ. Amazing how they bossed the test without Boult and Southee.
StephenZA
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Many commiserations for NZ..... nice to be saved by the rain for a change.
Happy for the tour win. Disappointed with our top order batting performances, however some really good bowling from us. Solid tour, but SA have a long way to go to sort out some of the problems.
Happy for the tour win. Disappointed with our top order batting performances, however some really good bowling from us. Solid tour, but SA have a long way to go to sort out some of the problems.
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Lame.
SA got very lucky here. Good to see Faf acknowledging that. Between this and the series in August, 3 of the last 5 matches between these two teams have been heavily affected by the weather.
Hope this doesn't overshadow Williamson's efforts with the bat in this series. WAG
SA got very lucky here. Good to see Faf acknowledging that. Between this and the series in August, 3 of the last 5 matches between these two teams have been heavily affected by the weather.
Hope this doesn't overshadow Williamson's efforts with the bat in this series. WAG
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Was about to mention that one.
Dhoni also helped you guys out with an absurdly conservative declaration.
Moss
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Frustrating result considering NZ for once played to potential. SA were pretty shaky throughout the series but had enough class to ride through all that. It's a pity because 2004 aside, series between these two sides have rarely been this competitive.
While many of us have been dissatisfied with the direction the test side has taken since 2015, this summer was actually an improvement in the last where BMac's side lost 2-0 to an Australian side which was not as good as this South African one. A pass mark from me but a lot of ground to cover in the long layoff.
While many of us have been dissatisfied with the direction the test side has taken since 2015, this summer was actually an improvement in the last where BMac's side lost 2-0 to an Australian side which was not as good as this South African one. A pass mark from me but a lot of ground to cover in the long layoff.
Moss
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Frustrating result considering NZ for once played to potential. SA were pretty shaky throughout the series but had enough class to ride through all that. It's a pity because 2004 aside, series between these two sides have rarely been this competitive.
While many of us have been dissatisfied with the direction the test side has taken since 2015, this summer was actually an improvement in the last where BMac's side lost 2-0 to an Australian side which was not as good as this South African one. A pass mark from me but a lot of ground to cover in the long layoff.
While many of us have been dissatisfied with the direction the test side has taken since 2015, this summer was actually an improvement in the last where BMac's side lost 2-0 to an Australian side which was not as good as this South African one. A pass mark from me but a lot of ground to cover in the long layoff.
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Oh well, it was always going to happen. As I said yesterday, the good thing for us Kiwi supporters is we've been conditioned to always expect the worst to happen. so I'm sure we were all kind of prepared in advance. Just like our default is that we'll lose the toss (against good sides when it actually matters).
Still, decent series for NZ considering our personnel, and funny that CDG out-bowled Philander. Who would have picked that at the start of the series?, even if Vernon was unlucky at times.
Overall, as a SAfrican supporter, you'd have to be happy with the series win, but concerned about some of the performances, I thought they were decidedly average overall and there were a few cracks starting to appear.
Still, decent series for NZ considering our personnel, and funny that CDG out-bowled Philander. Who would have picked that at the start of the series?, even if Vernon was unlucky at times.
Overall, as a SAfrican supporter, you'd have to be happy with the series win, but concerned about some of the performances, I thought they were decidedly average overall and there were a few cracks starting to appear.
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Bahseph
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Feel for NZ. I would have loved to have seen how QDeK handled the situation today.
@ Zinzan. The cracks have been there for months. We are getting through because of De kock and the bowlers, with an odd sprinkling of a top order hundred thrown in now and then. It's a major problem.
@ Zinzan. The cracks have been there for months. We are getting through because of De kock and the bowlers, with an odd sprinkling of a top order hundred thrown in now and then. It's a major problem.
wellAlbidarned
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henry should only ever play if he gets the new ball. direct swap for southee imo.
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Yeah, I hadn't made that clear, by 3rd seamer I mean 3rd choice behind Boult & Waggers, but of course sharing the new ball with Boult, with Wags bowling in his specialist 1st change role.
BTW, I don't think Softhee was terrible this summer, he actually bowled fairly well, but let's be honest CDG had a better average in the games they played together IIRC on the back of games against a pretty woeful Pakistan and Bangers.
BTW, I don't think Softhee was terrible this summer, he actually bowled fairly well, but let's be honest CDG had a better average in the games they played together IIRC on the back of games against a pretty woeful Pakistan and Bangers.
Prince EWS
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Funnily enough this is true of Wagner and Henry, but not Southee.
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Boult-Southee-CdG attack ftw!