Curtly Ambrose vs Jimmy Anderson

[listento_me]

As much as I'm a Jimmy fan and as much as his swing bowling and skill set is exceptional, he just isn't on the level of a bowler like Ambrose.

 

[fredfertang]

Jimmy has never traded in the spectacular in the way Curtley did - if you had to have just one I think everyone would pick Curtley, but you'd really want both

 

[TestMatch]

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Jimmy bowling in his own backyard = bowling average of 25
Ambrose bowling in Jimmy's backward = bowling average of 20

 

[Black_Warrior]

Ambrose without a blink of an eye.

 

[Blocky]

Jimmy bowling in his own backyard = bowling average of 25
Ambrose bowling in Jimmy's backward = bowling average of 20

To be fair to Jimmy, had he been bowling at some of those English sides Curtly got to play against, his average might well be 20 too.

 

[randycricfreak]

Sir Curtly Ambrose









James Anderson

Thanks for your cooperation

 

[randycricfreak]

Ambrose was a total genius.

Ambrose could only be compared to his fellow great Malcolm Marshall.

Steyn Anderson would be a better comparison,though Steyn holds the upper hand

 

[kingkallis]

21 against 1 says it all

 

[listento_me]

Let's put it this way, if I was picking a world XI, across all era, the bowling would look like the following:

undisputed names - Wasim Akram, McGrath, Warne/Murali

Then you'd have names like Ambrose, Marshall, Waqar, Donald and Lillee who would get in depending on how you wanted to shape your attack and conditions.

Jimmy doesn't yet hit those categories.

 

[Bijed]

Let's put it this way, if I was picking a world XI, across all era, the bowling would look like the following:

undisputed names - Wasim Akram, McGrath, Warne/Murali

Then you'd have names like Ambrose, Marshall, Waqar, Donald and Lillee who would get in depending on how you wanted to shape your attack and conditions.

Jimmy doesn't yet hit those categories.

Given how far advanced his career now is that's unlikely to change too, sadly.

I mean, I love Jimmy and I think anyone who says he doesn't reach the ranks of the 'very good' bowlers is letting his ordinary start to his test career (or other, often a touch arbitrary, factors) tar their opinions of him too much, but I'd be kidding myself if I said he could be legitimately ranked amongst the names you've mentioned. Ambrose vs Anderson is no contest, but that's no poor reflection on Jimmy.

 

[listento_me]

Given how far advanced his career now is that's unlikely to change too, sadly.

I mean, I love Jimmy and I think anyone who says he doesn't reach the ranks of the 'very good' bowlers is letting his ordinary start to his test career (or other, often a touch arbitrary, factors) tar their opinions of him too much, but I'd be kidding myself if I said he could be legitimately ranked amongst the names you've mentioned. Ambrose vs Anderson is no contest, but that's no poor reflection on Jimmy.

I can't disagree with this.

There was a time when Jimmy was the very best bowler on the planet, certainly the best skilled swing bowler around but even that part of his career didn't allow him to reach the heights of the truly great.

I dunno how old you are but at 27 I grew up in a generation of truly great bowlers and although I like Jimmy as a fan, he doesn't reach the heights of those I saw.

 

[Bijed]

I'm 21 so didn't get quite the same extended era of a plethora of greats to watch, but still saw a bit of McGrath/Donald/Wasim etc and of course Steyn came along so I haven't totally missed out.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Haha...please.

 

[Slifer]

Let's put it this way, if I was picking a world XI, across all era, the bowling would look like the following:

undisputed names - Wasim Akram, McGrath, Warne/Murali

Then you'd have names like Ambrose, Marshall, Waqar, Donald and Lillee who would get in depending on how you wanted to shape your attack and conditions.

Jimmy doesn't yet hit those categories.

Sorry to nit pick and I know it's your personal opinion, but none of Murali,Warne, Mcgrath or Wasim are any more undisputed in a world eleven than the likes of Ambrose, MM, Donald, Hadlee, Imran etc.

 

[GIMH]

Obviously Jimmy isn't on par with Ambrose but it's amusing to see posts like Stephen's

 

[Tom Flint]

One of the best bowlers in history or a medium pace trundler from England. Not a hard choice.

The greatest medium pace trundler of all time you mean?

 

[honestbharani]

Anderson is awesome. Curtly was just awesomer by a million more miles.

 

[randycricfreak]

The greatest medium pace trundler of all time you mean?

Richard Hadlee says Hi!

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Any Anderson fanboys changed their mind?

 

[harsh.ag]

One and only post. Agides WAG.