StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
? Where is that?
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South Africa team selection
- Thread starter StephenZA
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SeamUp
International Coach
Honest answer. I don't even know anymore. All I know is, Markram plays.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Haha I couldn't find it either but SeamUp and fake news don't really go together.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
South Africa team management rebuffed AB de Villiers' offer to play World Cup | ESPNcricinfo.com
Ok, But his behaviour on that was not good either. Can't expect a positive result going to everybody 24h before selection decision.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah 24 hours is rough, but when it's de Villiers you should really at least have a discussion about it IMO.
That's just needlessly arrogant and bureaucratic.
SeamUp
International Coach
AB isn't perfect here but I wouldn't even worry about hurting other players when you are not good enough.
You try and get your best players available even in these circumstances. An even that is once every 4 years.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah it is ABdV, but it immediately means you not taking Markram or Rassie. They where unlikely to drop Miller or Duminy. And that is how you get kolpak problems. Would I love to see Miller or Duminy out for ABdV. But it would still have been harsh on those players regardless.
SeamUp
International Coach
Sorry guys. Had to quickly deal with something at work. Got a little cricinfo app buzz for the story.
Arrogance is making yourself available 24 hours before
harsh.ag
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harsh.ag
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Honestly, this should have been addressed by the SA selectors when they announced the squad. Something along the lines of "ABdV was kind enough to offer etc but we felt etc". It's really their own fault for not getting things like this can leak at the wrong time.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, was gonna come out eventually, but better for someone's book after the Cup, not now.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
Possibly....
But this whole thing is just a **** show from everybody, including ABdV.
Bahseph
State Captain
AB included. It just underlines the fact that he hasn't given us the real reason he retired. If they put him in it would have caused a whole other range of issues imo. Interesting to see you guys thoughts.What the what
Boobs, the lot of them.
Bahseph
State Captain
AB has never seemed arrogant to me, just like someone who acts impulsively. Him not being there severely dented our WC hopes. He had to have known that when he retired. It was so far along in the cycle that finding any replacement would have been incredibly tough. As I've said before, Rassie being consistent is something we lucked into. This is the worst week for SA cricket I've seen in a long time.
Dendarii
International Debutant
In ODIs in 2018 after his retirement South Africa won in Sri Lanka, whitewashed Zimbabwe at home, and won a series in Australia. So things were looking OK in January.
SeamUp
International Coach
We've also probably lost 2 of the better limited overs players peaking this generation for the world cup in Rilee Rossouw and Colin Ackermann. You could argue Colin Ingram may have got into this WC squad too if we had everyone competing in best v best in 50-over limited overs comp if there was a shoot-out for the WC.