500!

[Tom Halsey]

Murali still has a better strike rate...

...because he plays in Sri Lanka, where it spins, rather than in Australia, where it doesn't.

Put Warne in Sri Lanka, and Murali in Australia, and you'd all be saying that Warne is miles better.

 

[Rik]

...because he plays in Sri Lanka, where it spins, rather than in Australia, where it doesn't.

Put Warne in Sri Lanka, and Murali in Australia, and you'd all be saying that Warne is miles better.

If anything, being played defensively all the time and still having a better strike rate is pretty amazing, as I stated before. It's harder to bowl or get a batsman out if he's hell bent on defending everything, a la Hoggard. Murali not only has a lower average, but the strike rate is the real clincher here, he still has a better one despite being played out defensively all the time. As also stated before Warne relies more on bounce than turn so he's probably better off in Australia. Warne has also been part of a strong attack for a long time, so you would expect a lower strike rate because of the pressure exerted by Glenn McGrath, who stops the batsmen scoring and forces them to take the attack to Warne.

 

[Craig]

Forgetting Harbhajan? How to destroy the Aussies with a bowler suddenly everyone thinks is amazing in 3...2...1...

Personally I think he is a one series wonder. Still 32 wickets is a great achievement.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

...because he plays in Sri Lanka, where it spins, rather than in Australia, where it doesn't.

Put Warne in Sri Lanka, and Murali in Australia, and you'd all be saying that Warne is miles better.

But Warne doesn't exactly have a great track record where it spins. And don't give me any rubbish about the last Tests. That was one Test match, but it's Warne's first true success on the subcontinent.

 

[Rik]

Personally I think he is a one series wonder. Still 32 wickets is a great achievement.

Bowled pretty well to us when we were over there, along with Kumble. Picked up a few 5-fors each. But it was a very weak England side.

 

[Rik]

But Warne doesn't exactly have a great track record where it spins. And don't give me any rubbish about the last Tests. That was one Test match, but it's Warne's first true success on the subcontinent.

You are forgetting the Tests against Pakistan where he destroyed them, but then again, Pakistan picked almost an entire team of teenagers...

 

[Tom Halsey]

You are forgetting the Tests against Pakistan where he destroyed them, but then again, Pakistan picked almost an entire team of teenagers...

I believe he had some brilliat series against them in '95.

With a broken toe in 1 of the Tests.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

You are forgetting the Tests against Pakistan where he destroyed them, but then again, Pakistan picked almost an entire team of teenagers...

Pakistan isn't as spin-friendly as the others though. Also, I don't consider that series a proper series. Huge mismatch IMO.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Ignoring the series I listed...

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

No, just too lazy to check up on it. Do it yourself. :P

 

[Craig]

Bowled pretty well to us when we were over there, along with Kumble. Picked up a few 5-fors each. But it was a very weak England side.

He had the measure of Flintoff in that series. Flintoff had no idea with the bat.

An average of 5.2 over there is only good if your Chris Martin.

 

[marc71178]

He had the measure of Flintoff in that series. Flintoff had no idea with the bat.

That was the old style Flintoff - the current model wouldn't score so lowly IMO.

 

[Tom Halsey]

If anything, being played defensively all the time and still having a better strike rate is pretty amazing, as I stated before. It's harder to bowl or get a batsman out if he's hell bent on defending everything, a la Hoggard. Murali not only has a lower average, but the strike rate is the real clincher here, he still has a better one despite being played out defensively all the time. As also stated before Warne relies more on bounce than turn so he's probably better off in Australia. Warne has also been part of a strong attack for a long time, so you would expect a lower strike rate because of the pressure exerted by Glenn McGrath, who stops the batsmen scoring and forces them to take the attack to Warne.

But he has a huge advantage by playing in Sri Lanka, rather than Australia!!!

 

[Tom Halsey]

No, just too lazy to check up on it. Do it yourself. :P

OK.

19 @ 10.42, best figures of 7/23.

 

[Tom Halsey]

But Warne doesn't exactly have a great track record where it spins. And don't give me any rubbish about the last Tests. That was one Test match, but it's Warne's first true success on the subcontinent.

Just noticed another series.

Wickets at 14.37 each, best 5/52.

In Sri Lanka.

 

[Rik]

But he has a huge advantage by playing in Sri Lanka, rather than Australia!!!

As you said, and if you had read what I posted you would understand that I explained exactly why it isn't really an amazing advantage, taking into account of their major weapons, Murali's spin and Warne's bounce and spin...Warne bowls better in bouncy conditions...

 

[Cactus]

500 wickets for warne.....congrats

500 wickets for Murali.......congrats again

But here's something to ponder about!!!........

WARNE: reached 500 hundred wickets in his 108th test match

MURALI: in his 108th test match (if he continues with his current wicket taking rate) should have approximately 650 victims in the bag.

i dunno if anyone had mentioned this earlier but this was something that Steve Waugh actually pointed out.

 

[Tom Halsey]

Fair pont, but he bowls many more overs per match, so irrelevant IMO.

What are thos figures now? Is it...what? 1-124?

 

[marc71178]

WARNE: reached 500 hundred wickets in his 108th test match

MURALI: in his 108th test match (if he continues with his current wicket taking rate) should have approximately 650 victims in the bag.

Yes, but when you look at strike rates, they're amazingly close...

 

[Rik]

What are thos figures now? Is it...what? 1-124?

Yet another point that proves nothing. He's playing Australia, Australia are a better batting side! GET IT?