StephenZA
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Nah... thats easy done that twice now...
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morgieb
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It's odd, you've beaten us twice over here but you haven't beaten us at home since you got readmitted. Makes for a lot of fun, do Australia/South Africa series.Nah... thats easy done that twice now...
nightprowler10
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I think I said in the tour thread, but for me it's Pakistan 1a, England 1b. This might change tomorrow.
To me, it's really difficult to flat out dismiss England as the number 1 option. They did well coming back from a 1-0 deficit to pounce Pakistan, came back again in the 3rd Test after Pakistan winning the first 3 days and won. Also keep in mind that just as Pakistan could easily have been 2-1 or 3-1 here, the 0-2 result for England in UAE could've been 2-1 for England as well. In comparison I don't think Australia came close in their 0-2 result in the UAE.
As others have said, all these perceptions could change within the next few months, but based on what I've seen thus far I believe we just witnessed the top 2 teams in the world battle it out.
To me, it's really difficult to flat out dismiss England as the number 1 option. They did well coming back from a 1-0 deficit to pounce Pakistan, came back again in the 3rd Test after Pakistan winning the first 3 days and won. Also keep in mind that just as Pakistan could easily have been 2-1 or 3-1 here, the 0-2 result for England in UAE could've been 2-1 for England as well. In comparison I don't think Australia came close in their 0-2 result in the UAE.
As others have said, all these perceptions could change within the next few months, but based on what I've seen thus far I believe we just witnessed the top 2 teams in the world battle it out.
honestbharani
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Yeah but around the time when he emerged, he looked like he had the potential to be that #5 whom they can build the team around. And his off spin will mean they can often play Tahir to be the lone spinner and use JP in the containing role when needed. But his decline since around 2013 has been the cause coz had he been as good as he promised when he burst onto the scene, they wont have felt the absence of Kallis, esp., as much as they are doing now. He burst onto the scene in 2008 or 09 and then had a bad couple of years but had a really good 2012 I think and then just went to **** for some reason since then.
honestbharani
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Yeah but if Duminy really lived up to the heights he showed initially they could have used him in the all rounder's role and played 7 batsman 4 bowler combo.. He could have even been the sole spinner at times.. Anyways just my personal opinion that had JPD been as good as he initially promised, it would have served RSA the best.
Motorwada
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Series is planned in Oct-Nov 2017 right before our next away set. India are okay with playing Pakistan as long as it is played in India cause $$$$. Pakistan are not okay with it. Let's see what happens.
I don't think it will happen though. Our prime minister today explicitly gave support to a secession/freedom movement happening in one of the states in Pakistan so no India-Pakistan for a decade I believe.
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Motorwada
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Government is pretty right wing and have a hardline stance on Pakistan. Also many people would not like Paksitan touring for the 2008 Bombay blasts.
There was supposed to be a series in 2015 and the PCB guys came over for talks but this happened.
Hence "at the moment"Nah... thats easy done that twice now...
What separates Australia at home from other teams is their scoring rate. They score very quickly which leaves them plenty of time to get opposition out and make them crumble under scoreboard pressure. Other sides aren't capable of doing it consistently
I said bigger challenge than beating India/ pak because both India and Pakistan are capable to defeating each other theoretically (slight edge to Pakistan of course)
With Australia I don't see anyone beating them at home currently
hendrix
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NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
By amount of wins (which is fallible, because you play more you can win more) it's:
Australia
England
Pakistan
New Zealand
India
Sri Lanka
Bangladesh
South Africa
West Indies
Zimbabwe
Or by ratio (which is also fallible because less games and depending on opposition, can look better than others)
Pakistan
India
Australia
England
New Zealand
Bangladesh
South Africa
Sri Lanka
West Indies
Zimbabwe
The top 5 in both groups seems fairly consistent
on gut feeling I'd have it 1. Australia/Pakistan
3. England/India
5. New Zealand/South Africa
7. Sri Lanka
8. Bangladesh
9. West Indies
10. Zimbabwe
South Africa to properly smash NZ this series most likely so they'll go up probs.
Burgey
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This is cute
aNarcHy2day
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The top 4-5 teams are so close right now- mostly because none of them are infallible, it actually is quite impossible to rank them definitively. That's the truth.
flibbertyjibber
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Number 1 in the rankings obviously.
Though a few away tours would see that lead soon vanish.
Furball
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Number 2 until they stop hiding behind their government and get smashed by Pakistan.