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I've had enough, Virat Kohli.......

weldone

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Kohli is not the best Indian test batsman atm. Rahane is better. Kohli gets overrated because of his incredible limited-overs performances.
 

Zinzan

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Richards and Tendulkar, possibly Ponting are distinctly ahead of him, the rest are just maybes.
Ponting distinctly? Big call that. I'd never deny his WC final knock, but stretch to say he's def ahead of Kohli overall. Although you did say 'possibly distinctly' for him
 

Zinzan

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Kohli is not the best Indian test batsman atm. Rahane is better. Kohli gets overrated because of his incredible limited-overs performances.
Not sure anyone outside of Shane Warne and Howsie overrate him as a Test bat.
 

Howe_zat

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Not sure anyone outside of Shane Warne and Howsie overrate him as a Test bat.
Nah I think this thread has a point in calling him overrated in tests. There has been a media presence for the 'big four young batsmen' meme in the media for a couple of years - ever since Crowe wrote that one article - even though Kohli has lagged behind the other three in average, 50+ scores and ranking. He's not even as young. I noticed Jarrod Kimber (who is normally quite good at keeping things in perspective, if a bit overly poetic) on cricinfo during the England-Pakistan series couldn't praise Root without having to bring up all of Smith, Williamson and Kohli. People seem pretty keen to make him fit into that group regardless of whether he actually does.
 
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Zinzan

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Nah I think this thread has a point in calling him overrated in tests. There has been a media presence for the 'big four young batsmen' meme in the media for a couple of years - ever since Crowe wrote that one article - even though Kohli has lagged behind the other three in average, 50+ scores and ranking. He's not even as young. I noticed Jarrod Kimber (who is normally quite good at keeping things in perspective, if a bit overly poetic) on cricinfo during the England-Pakistan series couldn't praise Root without having to bring up all of Smith, Williamson and Kohli. People seem pretty keen to make him fit into that group regardless of whether he actually does.
Pretty sure he's a bit of an exception to the rule. The 'big 3' has been pretty well entrenched in cricketing circles for 12-18 months now if we're talking tests, so Jarrod might have been on a sabbatical away from cricket for that time.
 

OverratedSanity

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Nah I think this thread has a point in calling him overrated in tests. There has been a media presence for the 'big four young batsmen' meme in the media for a couple of years - ever since Crowe wrote that one article - even though Kohli has lagged behind the other three in average, 50+ scores and ranking. He's not even as young. I noticed Jarrod Kimber (who is normally quite good at keeping things in perspective, if a bit overly poetic) on cricinfo during the England-Pakistan series couldn't praise Root without having to bring up all of Smith, Williamson and Kohli. People seem pretty keen to make him fit into that group regardless of whether he actually does.
Yeah I agree, but I get the feeling that when people outside CW talk about the best players in the world, and make world XIs, they just pick the best players regardless of format. Even if they say it's a test XI, they let their opinions formed by watching ODIs and T20s to bleed in and they put barely any thought into it since they're not nerds like us who fine-tune our imaginary XIs down to the minutest detail.
 

honestbharani

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Really? Simply talking about ODI batsmen, in India alone I can put forward Tendulkar, Sehwag and Dhoni. I could probably add more in with a bit more research into it.

Kohli may end his career as one of the best in ODIs ever but as of now, he isn't.

What has Sehwag even done in ODIs?? Iwill still say Sachin as #1 and MSD just maybe ahead but surely you are having a laugh mentioning Sehwag in ODIs in that company.
 

Gob

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ICC rankings

1.Smitteh
2.Rooteh
3.Williamsoneh
16.Kohlieh

So yeah there is a problem
 

weldone

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I'll be unpopular for saying this but the entire personality, aggressive batting style, limited overs record thing overrates many test batsmen. Kohli is not the only one, some other examples are (on very different scales of overrating) Viv Richards and Brendon McCullum. I absolutely love all 3 of them btw.
 
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TheJediBrah

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I'll be unpopular for saying this but the entire personality, aggressive batting style, limited overs record thing overrates many test batsmen. Kohli is not the only one, some other examples are (on very different scales of overrating) Viv Richards and Brendon McCullum. I absolutely love all 3 of them btw.
Not sure why you'd be unpopular for saying that, it's a straight-forward fact.
 

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