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Why wasnt Ed Smith not called up?
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tooextracool
International Coach
analysing butchers performances over the last 2 yearsmarc71178 said:
against sri lanka - 51, 54,4,6, 23, 37
against SA - 13,-,19,70,106,8,77,61,32,20no,
against australia- 54,40,22,4,9,0,25,6,124,34,
against india - 29,18,53,16,42,54,-
taking all scores above 30 as times when he has got set and accustomed to the conditions and anything under 100 as a lapse of concentration u have:
15 failures,13 starts and 2 hundreds
now for a player oozing class that is a poor statistic, so many starts and only 2 centuries in 2 years and there were no rain breaks on any of those occasions. id like to see him convert those 50,60,70 starts into 100s and those 30, 40s into 80s and 90s
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
Troughton's form should have made you notice, being picked in the wrong form of the game and not performing doesn't mean he's not up to International Cricket. Anyway, he's only just 25 and has scored 2007 runs from 29 FC games at an average of 45 and he scored 748 at 41.55 from 12 games last season. He's a very exciting talent and hasn't had a bad season yet. Bell has allways impressed me whenever I've seen him, I can't understand why he's not performing, he's looked the buisness and he's been doing well in OD cricket of late, so why not give him a chance in ODIs? Wagh went to the academy, impressed with his batting and also his part-time off-spin and he's got a FC 300 to his name. Not a bad player at all. I also missed out Fulton and Ian Ward, Fulton because of his eye problems and Ward because he needs to get that flaw sorted out still, although he's been scoring shedloads of run of late.marc71178 said:
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
I guess his break midseason to play for England meant that I didn't really notice his form as it wasn't one long run.Rik said:
He's a strange character - appears talented, but really needs to show it in 2004 or he maybe in danger of missing the boat.Rik said:
Of the 3, he's the one I'd pick first - I wonder if it's the fact there is less said about him means he's under less pressure to perform?Rik said:
I can't see either of them coming close to the side again, and not without reason IMO.Rik said:
Rik
Cricketer Of The Year
marc71178 said:
I'd go for Troughton, he's really talented and has the record to prove it. Wagh performed well for the Academy and has been forgotten since, which is odd to say the least, since Read got into the side purely on performing for the Academy, it's even more odd. I only suggested Bell for the ODI side, he's got a lot more to do before he can be considered for Tests.
I didn't mention them for those reasons, Ward's flaw and Fulton's eye.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Yeah, hopefully, he's just a fingerspinner, and seemingly not the most accurate one either.
But his batting is seriously impressive and I find it baffling that he's never been mentioned as a possiblity for the Test side when Collingwod and Strauss have been picked, Collingwood despite an ordinary 2003.
But his batting is seriously impressive and I find it baffling that he's never been mentioned as a possiblity for the Test side when Collingwod and Strauss have been picked, Collingwood despite an ordinary 2003.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
It is a very good job he started his Test career with something actually challenging, rather than a free-boost-your-average series like Zimbabwe.
Memories need to extend beyond 4 games, yes, but they also need to extend a year. I never think picking someone who is out of form is much of a good idea. And 27 is, I'd say, for a good county player like Collingwood, out of form, just coming off a long cricketless period or not.
If Collingwood has a good 2004 (hoping he doesn't play in the Caribbean, as that will mean disturbance in the middle-order, either through injury or poor form) he will fully merit his selection for the winter tours of 2004\05 or any games in the summer.
Memories need to extend beyond 4 games, yes, but they also need to extend a year. I never think picking someone who is out of form is much of a good idea. And 27 is, I'd say, for a good county player like Collingwood, out of form, just coming off a long cricketless period or not.
If Collingwood has a good 2004 (hoping he doesn't play in the Caribbean, as that will mean disturbance in the middle-order, either through injury or poor form) he will fully merit his selection for the winter tours of 2004\05 or any games in the summer.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
2 years of success followed by 4 games of poor scores suggests that the memories have to be of when he was good.Richard said:
So you'd have dropped Tendulkar after the 3rd Test then?Richard said:
It all depends on how he plays - low scores does not always mean poor form.Richard said:
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Yes, I'm aware of that.marc71178 said:
I think you've misuderstood that deliberately, as you do when saying "if we picked the Test team on county averages Knight and Hick would be playing every game". You know perfectly well that I mean "select on international averages then domestic averages" there.
And I think you know perfectly well that I mean you should not select someone for the step-up in a level if they're not showing recent form. Not that you should immidiately drop someone averaging 55-57 because they've had 5 Tests averaging 20.
That is not to say that you should select someone just because they are showing short-term form.
Love didn't seem to have much trouble in the same period.