Best ever Limited Overs batsman ever, 32 man knockout tournament, tourney thread.

[watson]

The following number crunching was done in 2011 so it's not overly relevant to Sangakkara. But it is another piece of evidence that points to the idea that Brian Lara was a great ODI batsman, not just a great Test match batsman. Sure, you're not going to build a monument on it, but is does reinforce a particular perception that some people have.

Most Valuable One Day Batsman (2011)

The Value of a player as an ODI batsman is given as follows:

Value = (Run Share) x (Strike Rate Ratio) x (Batting Average)
Performance =*(Run Share) x (Strike Rate Ratio)

Run Share = Player's Runs / All other players runs in that innings*
Strike Rate Ratio = Player's Strike Rate / Cumulative Strike Rate of all other players
Batting Average = Number of Runs per Dismissal

*For the purpose of this calculation only runs off the bat are considered. Extras are ignored as these do not accrue to any particular batsman.

One problem that comes along regularly in these career comparisons is due to the general differences in eras. For example, scoring rates in the 1970s and 1980s were lower than scoring rates today. In this, I respond to this problem by trying to measure how far ahead of his teammates a given player was.

Here is a list of the top 50 ODI batsman of all time....

1. Viv Richards
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Dean Jones
4. AB De Villiers
5. Brian Lara
Etc....

A CRICKETING VIEW: Most Valuable ODI Batsmen

 

[viriya]

The following number crunching was done in 2011 so it's not overly relevant to Sangakkara. But it is another piece of evidence that points to the idea that Brian Lara was a great ODI batsman, not just a great Test match batsman.

I don't think anyone's disputing that he was a great ODI batsman here. Just whether he is clearly better compared to Sanga.. Note that Sanga had his best years after 2011.

 

[cnerd123]

Viv Richards vs Hashim Amla
Kumar Sangakkara vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Ricky Ponting
Virat Kohli vs Gordon Greenidge

AB De Villiers vs Adam Gilchrist
Mark Waugh vs Zaheer Abbas

Michael Bevan vs Inzamam Ul-Haq
Dean Jones vs Sanath Jayasuria

 

[anil1405]

Viv Richards vs Hashim Amla
Kumar Sangakkara vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Ricky Ponting
Virat Kohli vs Gordon Greenidge

AB De Villiers vs Adam Gilchrist
Mark Waugh vs Zaheer Abbas

Michael Bevan vs Inzamam Ul-Haq
Dean Jones vs Sanath Jayasuria

 

[mr_mister]

***** splitting 2 ties with his votes

Viv wins 19-2
Lara wins 14-7

Sachin wins 19-2
Virat wins 20-1

ABDV wins 19-2
Waugh wins 11-10

Bevan wins 18-3
Jones wins 11-10


Quarter finals:


Viv Richard vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli

AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh

Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[jimmy101]

***** splitting 2 ties with his votes
Quarter finals:


Viv Richard vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli

AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh

Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

Cue nuclear meltdown...

 

[jimmy101]

Viv Richards vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli

AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh

Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[viriya]

Viv Richards vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli

AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh

Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[marc71178]

Viv Richards vs Brian Lara
Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli
AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh
Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[vcs]

I don't think anyone's disputing that he was a great ODI batsman here. Just whether he is clearly better compared to Sanga.. Note that Sanga had his best years after 2011.

His early career meant people still rate him as a solid, Dravid-esque ODI player, which was a fair perception upto around 2011-12. But early impressions are hard to change.

 

[vcs]

Richards
Tendulkar
De Villiers
Bevan

Easy choices all.

 

[StephenZA]

Richards
Tendulkar
De Villiers
Bevan

 

[Red]

Viv Richard vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli

AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh

Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[AldoRaine18]

Viv Richard vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli

AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh

Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[watson]

Viv Richard vs Brian Lara

Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli

AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh

Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[NUFAN]

Richards
Kohli
Waugh
Bevan

 

[weldone]

Viv Richards vs Brian Lara
Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli
AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh
Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones

 

[honestbharani]

Richards
Sachin
The real AB
Bevan

 

[viriya]

Richards
Kohli
Waugh
Bevan

Waugh over AB

 

[AndrewB]

Viv Richards vs Brian Lara
Sachin Tendulkar vs Virat Kohli
AB De Villiers vs Mark Waugh
Michael Bevan vs Dean Jones