View Poll Results: The "top order" is

Voters
23. You may not vote on this poll
  • The openers

    1 4.35%
  • The openers plus first drop

    15 65.22%
  • The top four

    7 30.43%
Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 48
Like Tree47Likes

Thread: The term 'top order' refers to

  1. #1
    International Debutant kiwiviktor81's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    2,362

    The term 'top order' refers to

    I saw that KW is on CricInfo as a "middle-order" batsman. That got me thinking that I've never seen a definitive answer to what constitutes top order. I would have thought that first drop was still a top order position. However, I've heard 3-4-5 referred to as the middle order. Also I have heard 1-2-3-4 referred to as the top order.

    What is the consensus?

    Bonus points if you also know where the "lower order" begins.

  2. #2
    Request Your Custom Title Now!
    Suicide Bob Champion!
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Not really needed on CW
    Posts
    30,356
    Do you ever have thoughts that don't include KW
    zorax, 91Jmay, Zinzan and 11 others like this.

  3. #3
    Global Moderator Cabinet96's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    London, England
    Posts
    19,006
    Top three would be considered top order. KW's profile just isn't up to date in that respect.
    RIP Philip Hughes - 1988-2014

    The Wheel of Mediocrity | Compton, Root, Carberry, Robson, Trott, Lyth, Moeen, Hales, Duckett, Hameed, Jennings | The wheel is forever

    Founder and Grand Wizard of the CW Football Thread Statluminati. Potential hater of abilities. Blocked on twitter by Michael Vaughan, Brad McNamara and AtlCricket for my hard hitting truths.

  4. #4
    Cricket Web: All-Time Legend zorax's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Hong Kong
    Posts
    22,680
    Top Order - 1,2,3, occasionally 4
    Middle Order - 4,5,6,7
    Lower-Middle Order - 6,7,8
    Lower Order - 7,8,9,10,11
    Tail - Wherever the recognised batsmen stop

    Hope that clears things up.
    Check out The Cricket Web Podcast!

    The Cricket Web Podcast #33 - I Just Wanna Talk About Vernon Philander

    iTunes
    SoundCloud

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    If only Kane Richardson had played some HK domestic cricket before his ODI debut.
    Quote Originally Posted by S.Kennedy View Post
    The Hong Kong Blitz is better than the IPL.


  5. #5
    Hall of Fame Member Hurricane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Don't be jealous of the Georgie Pie super smash
    Posts
    15,199
    Top order is the top 4 in my book.

    The middle order is 5 through 7

    But wait news flash some people call 3-6 the middle order even though they also call the top 4 the top order. They use either middle order or top order for positions 3-4 interchangeably without thought.
    Dawood Ahmad likes this.
    1) Ross is Boss.
    2) See point 1.

    Leading the charge against nuances being used in posts.

    Overrated XI M Bracewell, Burns, Rahane, Don Voges, Bairstow, Alecz Day, Donovan Grobelaar, Luke Ronchi, Faulkner, Dan Christian, Permaul

  6. #6
    Global Moderator Spark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    A Blood Rainbow
    Posts
    53,434
    I don't see any particular reason why top and middle order have to be mutually exclusive descriptions.
    zorax likes this.
    citoyens, vouliez-vous une révolution sans révolution?

  7. #7
    Hall of Fame Member Hurricane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Don't be jealous of the Georgie Pie super smash
    Posts
    15,199
    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post

    But wait news flash some people call 3-6 the middle order even though they also call the top 4 the top order. They use either middle order or top order for positions 3-4 interchangeably without thought.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    I don't see any particular reason why top and middle order have to be mutually exclusive descriptions.
    Exhibit A

  8. #8
    Request Your Custom Title Now! Spikey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    the guy's trash bro
    Posts
    47,985
    top order 1-3
    middle order 4-7

    the end
    indiaholic likes this.
    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blo...cricket-legacy

    Brad McNamara ‏@bbuzzmc
    Will say this once and then nothing else. Defamation laws quite clear in Aus.be careful.

  9. #9
    International Debutant kiwiviktor81's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    2,362
    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    Top Order - 1,2,3, occasionally 4
    Middle Order - 4,5,6,7
    Lower-Middle Order - 6,7,8
    Lower Order - 7,8,9,10,11
    Tail - Wherever the recognised batsmen stop

    Hope that clears things up.
    Why no Top-Middle Order?

  10. #10
    Cricket Web: All-Time Legend zorax's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Hong Kong
    Posts
    22,680
    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiviktor81 View Post
    Why no Top-Middle Order?
    I've often wondered that myself tbh. And I think the term would be 'Upper-Middle'

    If such a classficiation existed It would probably just be numbers 4 and 5 tho

  11. #11
    I can't believe I ate the whole thing NZTailender's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Auckland, New Zealand
    Posts
    25,004
    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    top order 1-3
    middle order 4-7

    the end
    1-3 top order
    4-6 middle order
    7-9 lower order
    10-11 tailenders

    for mine
    _Ed_, Daemon and Days of Grace like this.
    President of SKAS - Kat is King | Proud member of CVAAS - One of the best | LRPLTAS - Rosco rocks!
    Go Tigers!
    R.I.P. Fardin & Craig

  12. #12
    International Vice-Captain
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Osaka, Japan
    Posts
    4,010
    I'm a bottom.

  13. #13
    Virat Kohli (c) Jono's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    65,366
    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    top order 1-3
    middle order 4-7

    the end
    Yep.
    "I am very happy and it will allow me to have lot more rice."

    Eoin Morgan on being given a rice cooker for being Man of the Match in a Dhaka Premier Division game.

  14. #14
    International Coach TheJediBrah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    14,122
    There is obviously no definitive answer

    Quote Originally Posted by zorax View Post
    Top Order - 1,2,3, occasionally 4
    Middle Order - 4,5,6,7
    Lower-Middle Order - 6,7,8
    Lower Order - 7,8,9,10,11
    Tail - Wherever the recognised batsmen stop

    Hope that clears things up.
    ^Pretty much this, which should be obvious IMO

  15. #15
    Cricketer Of The Year
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    england
    Posts
    9,721
    Top of the order 1 & 2
    Middle order 3-6
    Lower order 7-11

    The quality of the persons in situ is irrelevant. Whether you have Adam Gilchrist or Derek Pringle at 7 doesn't matter. It's still the same spot in the order.

Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Long term bets..
    By NUFAN in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 443
    Last Post: 26-07-2019, 04:15 AM
  2. Long term impact of 20/20
    By Xuhaib in forum 2009 ICC World Twenty20
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 29-06-2009, 02:31 PM
  3. Replies: 26
    Last Post: 10-02-2008, 04:11 AM
  4. American Mid-Term Elections
    By Fusion in forum Off Topic
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 10-11-2006, 06:09 AM
  5. Short-term "gain" leads to long-term loss!
    By marc71178 in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 19-11-2002, 03:51 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •